i still visit and put my tuppence worth in on the idiotic posts but the term sowing seeds on stony ground springs to mind. It's the same when they rip any car apart because of the price someone has set for a selling price, jeez you'd think they hated the cars. I was chastised once for daring to ask if they were true enthusiasts and I also mentioned the Tourers usually command an extra £1,000, sacrilege indeed lol