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    Hi all,

    Have a real issue trying to get into and out of gear.

    Possible causes are:-

    1. Gearbox
    1a. Bent selection fork
    1b. Weak synchro

    2. Clutch
    2a. Warped clutch

    3. Clutch hydraulics ( I take it they are fitted?)


    Symptoms:-

    (a) If engine is started in neutral then it is impossible to select ANY gear. Once engine/gearbox are warm (gearbox oil) then it is possible to select upwards if done slowly but it is very notchy. Impossible to change down unless at a virtual stop and, again, it improves when gearbox oil is warm but first gear remains virtually impossible unless many, many oaths have been issued over a great period of time.

    I have to start in-gear. I press the clutch down - which should give a neutral state - but the car will move as the clutch (for whatever reason) is not freed. It is not possible to take it out of gear unless the engine is switched off.

    (b) Clutch pedal travel is poor - my guess is it only starts to become effective over the last inch or so.


    My feeling is hydraulics with warped clutch second as these symptoms started at only 20k miles. Is the vehicle fitted with a master and slave?

    I read that Dreadnought had fitted a ZF box. Does anyone know the model/type? Did they fit clutch uprated facing material or left the original in?

    Any ideas or thoughts gratefully received as I would prefer to replace the part causing the problem rather than renew all three.


    regards,

    Kev
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    Hi mate

    Sounds to me like a clutch issue
    Yes we do have hydralic master and slave cyclinders on our car for the clutch

    I've had simular issues sounds to me like a leaking master cyclinder which is under the dash with the pedals. if you put your hand down around that area you may find bit of oil around there.

    I could be wrong tho best get checked out by a garage

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    Hello Kev,

    Does this improve if you pump the clutch pedal a few times - before trying to select the gear?

    Regards,
    Fishy

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    hope its sorted soon Kev.

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    First thing to do is get under the car and see if you are losing fluid around the bell housing

    Then try to bleed the system.

    I would then concentrate on ensuring the master is ok first because getting at the slave is a bit more complex.

    get yourself signed up and on to the full forum, several tips to be read about master cylinders
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom_2084 View Post
    Hi mate

    Sounds to me like a clutch issue
    Yes we do have hydralic master and slave cyclinders on our car for the clutch

    I've had simular issues sounds to me like a leaking master cyclinder which is under the dash with the pedals. if you put your hand down around that area you may find bit of oil around there.

    I could be wrong tho best get checked out by a garage

    I'm leaning that way, very long, soft travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishy View Post
    Hello Kev,

    Does this improve if you pump the clutch pedal a few times - before trying to select the gear?

    Regards,
    Fishy

    Fishy,

    No, the clutch pedal has a long, soft travel and appears not to have any real effect.

    cheers,

    Kev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    First thing to do is get under the car and see if you are losing fluid around the bell housing

    Then try to bleed the system.

    I would then concentrate on ensuring the master is ok first because getting at the slave is a bit more complex.

    get yourself signed up and on to the full forum, several tips to be read about master cylinders
    Keith,

    Had the vehicle on a four poster a couple of weeks ago. No sign of any fluids on the bell housing. Will have to drop the box if nothing found in any other areas of search.

    cheers,

    Kev

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    Quote Originally Posted by colintf View Post
    hope its sorted soon Kev.

    Where in the world are you??????

    Colin,

    Located Hatfield, Herts. I don't know of any like owners and I'm unsure if there was any difference to the front wheel drive set-up.


    cheers,

    Kev

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