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    Hi all

    First time poster. Have been looking for something with a nice V8 for a while. Have considered Jaguar XKR / XK8 and S-Type R but also half an eye on MG ZT 260.

    Went to look at a ZT260 on Monday. 55 plate, 22k miles, and you would think reading the description, mint. Found it to have been owned by the world wheel scuffing champion (two spares scuffed plus the ones on the car scuffed), to have air con working only on the passenger side (?) and an oil slick about 8 inches wide running from the back of the gearbox all along the bottom of the car (and dripping off the bolts of the cross member thingy about halfway back). Plus the added large rear spoiler in addition to the lip spoiler (ehhh ?) was scuffed in two places to (god knows how he did that).

    So, question is, what realistically are the chances of me finding a nice, well cared for, virtually unmarked example (accepting a little wear & tear) with reasonable mileage (say sub 50k) a service history, all of the known desirable upgrades a seat bolster that looks factory fresh, unscuffed wheels and nothing currently wrong with it ? Given production of circa 800 is it fair to assume that maybe 400 are trashed / thrashed / scrapped and another 200 tatty / unloved / high miles ? That leaves only 200 of which maybe less than 100 will be really nice and not a silly colour (X Power Grey or dark blue, if they did such a thing, would be my preference).

    I suspect my chances are near zero but would welcome opinions....

    Thanks all
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    Well here's one to start you off:

    https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc26...ead.php?t=6725

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    Thanks Tony

    That does look like a beauty. Would be ideal if only it were a dark colour ! Forgot to mention that silver is not my thing either.

    Perhaps I'm being too picky !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddcat View Post
    Went to look at a ZT260 on Monday. 55 plate, 22k miles
    I'm assuming this Phil's old car. I'm surprised at the condition you describe.

    There are still plenty of good condition, well looked after examples (and they come up for sale occasionally), but you may be expecting a little too much, since ultimately, they are all at least 5 years old.

    You list: "virtually unmarked, all of the known desirable upgrades, a seat bolster that looks factory fresh, unscuffed wheels and nothing currently wrong with it". Most of these issues can be addressed for a reasonable cost e.g. scuffed wheels, standard upgrades, so just use that to haggle the price down and you'll end up with the car you want.
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    Yeah was going to say.... Petes is probably going to be one of the best cared for examples you will find at the moment...
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    Hi and welcome

    I too would be suprised if that is Phil's ex car. Unless the trader has been very unloving since he bought it from Phil.

    I would say your chances are good, but may take a little time, afterall this isn't a normal Focus we are looking for here!

    Good luck with your hunting

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    Thanks for the responses so far chaps

    Not sure who's car this was as don't know anyone on here of course. Some mention of Pete and Phil above ?

    The car was reasonable bodywork wise (couple of dinks but nothing serious) and quite nice inside. I do like the alcantara seats they are lovely. But my two greatest car related irritations are oil leaks and careless scuffing of wheels. I sold an 06 plate Mondeo ST recently with 24k miles and it was, in all respects, as good as when it came out of the factory. I'd be chuffed if I could find a 260 anywhere near as good.

    What I couldn't understand was why the owner hadn't sorted the wheels given that he had (apparently) bought two new wheels to replace two scuffed ones. Hence I expected a scuff free wheels car (okay - maybe I'm naive !). And as for the oil leak.....but as someone said the car may have been traded weeks ago and knocked about in the meantime. Who knows.

    I would have thought these would generally be bought by enthusiasts and therefore well cared for and / or restored where a bit scabby. But with there only having ever been 800 maybe I won't ever find what I'm looking for (a bit like Bono !)

    Thanks for all responses so far. Much appreciated.

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    It is/was Phils old car.

    The type of car you are looking for of course will be someones one owner from new, mothballed car, and the chances are slim that these cars will come up for sale.

    the other thing is when looking for a car you are hypercritical and tend to pick up on every imperfection and "design feature" , for example mine has a slight diff oil leak, but for what it would cost to put right I can live with it, also from a distance mine is mint, but close up, the front bumper lets it down, being peppered with stonechips, which again, given the cost of a full respray is down on the priorities list. The majority of thes cars whilst they are loved, are still used and do suffer the odd ding, stonechip etc, and to find a ""perfect" example would be a long drawn out affair. Good luck anyway
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    I do take your point re the fact that pretty much all cars will have some signs of wear and tear. I could live with a weeping diff too but the leak (gearbox I assume) on the one I looked at meant it had oil dripping off the floorpan (ie would be dripping on the drive and would need to be fixed).
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    Shame you don't like silver as my one is one of the best examples you'd see. I would be willing to drop the price on the removal of some of the sellable modifications?
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