recent sales have been priced more to get rid of the car quickly than for someone who wants to sell but has the time to wait, if i was to sell my car i would put it on the market for 9k or more. coming onto the forum and saying "seems a bit optimistic" won't lower the price, thats still a lot of car for the money, i would like to see someone get the amount of car with upgrades like the sat nav for similar money