mg / mustang compatability

[dave]

do they share the same;

1 - drive by wire throttle pedal
2 - returnless fuel system
3 - ecu/pcm
4 - a/c system
5 - manual gearbox
6 - evap system (elaboorate fuel tank breather)

has anyone got a decent engine picture?

ta.

[Tim]

do they share the same;

1 - drive by wire throttle pedal (Nope to pedal but yes wire)
2 - returnless fuel system (Not sure)
3 - ecu/pcm (Nope but has ford/bmw/rover)
4 - a/c system (Nope, unique to this type of ZT/75)
5 - manual gearbox (Nope)
6 - evap system (elaboorate fuel tank breather) (Don't know)

has anyone got a decent engine picture?

ta.

[AndyG]

do they share the same;

1 - drive by wire throttle pedal. Driven by a Nut.
2 - returnless fuel system. Put it in the tank never to be seen again.
3 - ecu/pcm. Every Car Unique/Pure Crazy Motor.
4 - a/c system. Windows open to hear exhausts.
5 - manual gearbox. The only way!.
6 - evap system (elaboorate fuel tank breather) ?

[dave]

i own this off a mustang.




1 - so its a different pedal to



but does it share the same block connection?

2 - the returnless system. the mustang has a varible pressure ecu/blackbox controlled fuel pump. it goes to the connection on the n/s rail (in the red box).



and there is no return to the fuel tank. is the mg the same?

3 - does the ecu/pcm (pcm is powertrain control unit) have conections that look like;



4 - did any mg's come without a/c?

5 - what manual gearbox is it then? the mustangs is the Tremec TR3650.

6 - the evap goes from the fuel tank to inlet (the blue box in the above picture) via a big canister and a solenoid.

ta.

[Julianp]

On the gearbox, actually I thought it was the same box (Tremec 3650) as certain Mustang models such as the 2003 Mach 1 a friend of mine has. MG changed the ratios to make 5th a bit shorter but otherwise I think it's the same box.

[SJR]

do they share the same;

1 - drive by wire throttle pedal
2 - returnless fuel system
3 - ecu/pcm
4 - a/c system
5 - manual gearbox
6 - evap system (elaboorate fuel tank breather)

has anyone got a decent engine picture?

ta.

1 - No (Only the S-197 (2005-on) Mustang has a drive by wire throttle
and this Mustang does'nt use the 2 valve motor as fitted to the ZT260

3 - I believe that the ZT260 does use the Ford managament computer,
but it also has an MG/Rover piggyback? module.

5 - Yes the box is the same, exept the higher output Mustangs
(GT 500) etc use the 6 speed Tremmec T-56 (although I think they
call it something different now?)

SJR

[Phil]

3 - I believe that the ZT260 does use the Ford managament computer,
but it also has an MG/Rover piggyback? module.

It is called a "Gateway ECU" and is installed between the BMW and Ford ECUs, basically to allow the two to pass information.
It is unique to the 260 and is probably one of the very few parts that might be a real struggle to obtain.

[SJR]

It is called a "Gateway ECU" and is installed between the BMW and Ford ECUs, basically to allow the two to pass information.
It is unique to the 260 and is probably one of the very few parts that might be a real struggle to obtain.

I think "Piggyback module" sounds better though

I assume that it could be repaired by a Whizz kid?

SJR

[ksilver]

I assume that it could be repaired by a Whizz kid?

SJR

That excludes everyone on here then

[ksilver]

It is called a "Gateway ECU" and is installed between the BMW and Ford ECUs, basically to allow the two to pass information.
It is unique to the 260 and is probably one of the very few parts that might be a real struggle to obtain.

On a serious note, should we have someone look at a healthy one to copy codes etc. I know nothing about these things but I might assume each one may have it's own unique codes, so should we all have copies made of our own??

Sorry stabbing around in the dark a bit, but as Phil says it may be the achilles heel in all our cars and perhaps it is something we could (should?) plan for.

With a bit of luck someone here will have a technical understanding of what's involved and advise accordingly.