I still want a V8

[Les4048]

Keith
You will have to be very patient. According to how many left there are only about 40 V8 Estate left on the UK roads and if you are picky about the thee color you might have a long wait. I spent a year looking for mine.

Good luck

Steve

Wow!!! Only 40 Tourers on the UK roads, wonder how many are blown?

[David]

Wow!!! Only 40 Tourers on the UK roads, wonder how many are blown?

Not sure if Steve's number of 40 may be a bit pessimistic.

I checked through members who have been actively posting on the Forum in the last year, for whom the car's VIN has been made public in a post or in the 'About Me'. I come up with 40 ZT-T owners (UK), making sure that I threw out any duplicates, such as the same car changing hands in the last year (... one of these days I'll get a life ).

Point is, that there must be more cars from owners who haven't posted on the Forum in the last year, or having owners who are not and never have been members at all, I would think ?

I'll check the S/C cars if I can, but that information is a bit sketchier, and what there is, probably rather unreliable.

David

[Bean66]

Not sure if Steve's number of 40 may be a bit pessimistic.

Def think 40 is a little pessimistic. How many left lists 94 cars either taxed or SORN under the various model designations, so they differentiate between a Ztt SE V8 260 and a SE 260 V8, as according to the site thats they the way they were registered at the time.

MG Rover info's build data shows 151 Ztt V8 builds so roughly 30% have gone if we assume any survivors are either taxed or SORN as the regs now demand.

What fun i have ahead.

Cheers

Keith

[Nich]

...............
MG Rover info's build data shows 151 Ztt V8 builds ..............

152.....

Nich.

[David]

152.....

Nich.

Poor 'scoubix' gets forgotten all the time, with his 'trans-gender' Tourer/ZT-T.

David

[David]

You forgot some essential facts, Keith. Importantly, you assume that all vehicles were/are registered in the UK, plus that all LHD and RHD cars must be in the UK anyway. Makes a nonsense of those figures really.

Of the 152 ZT-Ts, 37 were LHD, leaving 115 RHD according to the MGR data.
Not all cars built for, and destined for, the "GREAT BRITAIN" market (yes, RHD and LHD), actually ended up by being delivered there, and vice-versa.

On top of that not all surviving LHD cars live 'abroad', and not all surviving RHD cars live in the UK anymore (quite a few I know of never did).

Finally, a few of both groups never escaped the factory at all, being development or crash testing vehicles, being intentionally destroyed shortly after birth!

.... Bit of a pig's breakfast !

So I'm afraid you can't really attempt to put meaningful percentage survival figures on it without lots more registration information, worldwide.

David

[Bean66]

You forgot some essential facts, Keith. Importantly, you assume that all vehicles were/are registered in the UK, plus that all LHD and RHD cars must be in the UK anyway. Makes a nonsense of those figures really.

Of the 152 ZT-Ts, 37 were LHD, leaving 115 RHD according to the MGR data.
On top of that not all surviving LHD cars live 'abroad', and not all surviving RHD cars live in the UK anymore (a few I know never did).
Not all cars built for, and destined for, the "GREAT-BRITAIN" market (yes, RHD and LHD), actually ended up by being delivered there, and vice-versa.

Finally, a few of both groups never escaped the factory at all, being development or crash testing vehicles, almost by definition destroyed shortly after birth!

So I'm afraid you can't really attempt to put meaningful percentage survival figures on it without lots more registration information, worldwide.

David

David

You are spot on with the production figures they list 151 (plus +1?) and some 37 were LHD, which i didn't think about at all. So if we assume the DVLA registered and SORN numbers are about right (and one would hope so) losses in the last 15 years are much less than my initial 30% est, so thats good.

I will keep looking.

Keith

[David]

David

You are spot on with the production figures they list 151 (plus +1?) and some 37 were LHD, which i didn't think about at all. So if we assume the DVLA registered and SORN numbers are about right (and one would hope so) losses in the last 15 years are much less than my initial 30% est, so thats good.

I will keep looking.

Keith

Yup. Just looking at the UK, only about 18% ..... ish of ZT-T 260s 'lost to time', ignoring the known factory scraps ?
The unknown/dubious-data factors (imports, exports etc.), mean that you will never get accuracy. Those cars, few though they may be, will still represent a significant percentage of the number of cars involved, and distort your 'result' massively, therefore.

And that's only the UK, and next year the numbers may be different.
All a bit academic, I guess. .

David