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    Hi groupies,

    Recently had a e-mail from x-part informing me that part TYG000250 can no longer be sourced from the original supplier which went out of business.

    Why they can't piggy back onto the JLR bolt supplier I don't know but I should think lack of will due to the low volumes involved.

    This part is essential for prop-shaft and drive-shaft.

    Anyone got any leads on a substitute? The difficulty is the pitch 2 spec.

    Kev

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    What's the full spec of the bolt?

    Head, thread profile, length and thread pitch.

    Nich.

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    Nicholas John Peter Tinker - # 484

    Manufactured on Tuesday 27th April 2004 @ 12.17.47.
    Commission Number: 24468.
    Brochure Model: M3 Tourer 4.6 V8 260PS.
    Specification Code: L01B.
    CICode: D1511.
    Trim Level: TL8.9 (M3).

    65th ZT-T 260SE to be made out of 114.
    11th ZT-T 260 SE in Pearl Black (PBT) out of 23 produced.

    Manufactured in the UK by MG Rover Group Ltd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nich View Post
    What's the full spec of the bolt?

    Head, thread profile, length and thread pitch.

    Nich.

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    Nich, as far as I can tell it is a Torx HT 12,9 bolt at M10x2x50mm

    e-mail contents:-

    Our Purchasing Team have chased their supplier again and confirmed that they are not able to supply TYG000250. Unfortunately the original supplier went out of business.

    Our records show that the bolt had an adhesive 'patch' on it and that it wasGrade 12.9, there is also what I understand to be a 'standard' reference no. associated with it: SS110507P. I hope that helps you locate some supplies or get the manufactured.

    All my searches to date have not found anything.

    Kev

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    So looking for Torx Head M10 x 50 x 2.0 High Tensile 12.9 grade bolt.

    Reference SS110507P.

    2mm pitch is incredibly coarse for a machine screw, it would normally be between 1.25 and 1.5 mm.

    Will keep looking.

    Nich.

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    Nicholas John Peter Tinker - # 484

    Manufactured on Tuesday 27th April 2004 @ 12.17.47.
    Commission Number: 24468.
    Brochure Model: M3 Tourer 4.6 V8 260PS.
    Specification Code: L01B.
    CICode: D1511.
    Trim Level: TL8.9 (M3).

    65th ZT-T 260SE to be made out of 114.
    11th ZT-T 260 SE in Pearl Black (PBT) out of 23 produced.

    Manufactured in the UK by MG Rover Group Ltd.


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    It is the 2mm Pitch that will be the problem.

    I have just spoken to my supplier of such odd ball items and he reckons that he reckons he has not seen an M10 with a 2mm pitch with a Torx head. We might have a chance with an Allen key head or normal hex head.

    Steve
    Last edited by SCP440; 08-06-2018 at 12:29 PM.

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    Can you find out from X Part who the original suppliers were? If the 2mm pitch is accurate then I must admit I have never seen a thread that coarse. If we knew who the original suppliers were then we might be able to source alternatives.

    Nich.

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    Nicholas John Peter Tinker - # 484

    Manufactured on Tuesday 27th April 2004 @ 12.17.47.
    Commission Number: 24468.
    Brochure Model: M3 Tourer 4.6 V8 260PS.
    Specification Code: L01B.
    CICode: D1511.
    Trim Level: TL8.9 (M3).

    65th ZT-T 260SE to be made out of 114.
    11th ZT-T 260 SE in Pearl Black (PBT) out of 23 produced.

    Manufactured in the UK by MG Rover Group Ltd.


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    There’s a company I use through work and they don’t list M10 with a 2 pitch, you need to move to M14 & M16 to get a 2 pitch

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    I have a TYG000250 in front of me. It's M10 x 1.5 x 50mm with a threaded portion of 40mm and a full diameter of 7mm. The flanged bolt head suits an E12 socket.

    Unfortunately a DIN 912 socket head capscrew M10 x 50 12.9 has a threaded portion of 32mm. You can buy these quite readily. You'd have to get an M10 x 1.5 (standard M10 pitch) die to extend the thread if you wanted to replicate the original.

    Regards

    Andrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6KH View Post
    I have a TYG000250 in front of me. It's M10 x 1.5 x 50mm with a threaded portion of 40mm and a full diameter of 7mm. The flanged bolt head suits an E12 socket.

    Unfortunately a DIN 912 socket head capscrew M10 x 50 12.9 has a threaded portion of 32mm. You can buy these quite readily. You'd have to get an M10 x 1.5 (standard M10 pitch) die to extend the thread if you wanted to replicate the original.

    Regards

    Andrew
    Can you post a photo Andrew? Could possibly get a longer bolt and cut down to length?

    Or

    Finish Self Colour
    Fully Threaded Yes
    General Tolerances +/- 0.13mm
    Head Diameter (D) 16mm
    Head Length (H) 10mm
    Hexagon A/F (J) 8mm
    Hexagon Depth (P) 5mm
    Length (L) 50mm
    Manufacturing Standard DIN 912
    Material 12.9 Hardened Steel
    Material Specification 12.9 Hardened Steel
    Screw Thread Pitch 1.5mm
    Thread Length (Max) 50mm
    Thread Size (T) M10 (10mm)


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    Last edited by Nich; 08-06-2018 at 08:58 PM.
    Nicholas John Peter Tinker - # 484

    Manufactured on Tuesday 27th April 2004 @ 12.17.47.
    Commission Number: 24468.
    Brochure Model: M3 Tourer 4.6 V8 260PS.
    Specification Code: L01B.
    CICode: D1511.
    Trim Level: TL8.9 (M3).

    65th ZT-T 260SE to be made out of 114.
    11th ZT-T 260 SE in Pearl Black (PBT) out of 23 produced.

    Manufactured in the UK by MG Rover Group Ltd.


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    Is a fully threaded version not available?

    Steve

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    Too late Steve, fully threaded available.



    Nich.

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    Nicholas John Peter Tinker - # 484

    Manufactured on Tuesday 27th April 2004 @ 12.17.47.
    Commission Number: 24468.
    Brochure Model: M3 Tourer 4.6 V8 260PS.
    Specification Code: L01B.
    CICode: D1511.
    Trim Level: TL8.9 (M3).

    65th ZT-T 260SE to be made out of 114.
    11th ZT-T 260 SE in Pearl Black (PBT) out of 23 produced.

    Manufactured in the UK by MG Rover Group Ltd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 6KH View Post
    I have a TYG000250 in front of me. It's M10 x 1.5 x 50mm with a threaded portion of 40mm and a full diameter of 7mm. The flanged bolt head suits an E12 socket.

    Unfortunately a DIN 912 socket head capscrew M10 x 50 12.9 has a threaded portion of 32mm. You can buy these quite readily. You'd have to get an M10 x 1.5 (standard M10 pitch) die to extend the thread if you wanted to replicate the original.

    Regards

    Andrew
    AAAhh so! Another bit of wrong information to send me down a path with no hope. I didn't dare take out another bolt from my car to check the spec and so relied on the forum which had a post in another thread stating it was pitch 2. Most bolts in the automotive trade are 1.5 for drive-line (BMW, JLR, Vauxhall). I will now search for a 1.5 x 50mm.

    Thanks for that Andrew, the information is more reassuring.

    Kev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Les4048 View Post
    There’s a company I use through work and they don’t list M10 with a 2 pitch, you need to move to M14 & M16 to get a 2 pitch
    Yeah, everyone and everyone's contact or granny over the last 8 months said pitch 2 at M10 would be a rarity.

    Thanks for the confirmation Les.

    Kev

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    Quote Originally Posted by torque2me View Post
    .................. I will now search for a 1.5 x 50mm......
    Kev
    Could try here Kev..........as I said earlier!

    https://www.accu.co.uk/en/cap-head-s...CF-M10-50-12-9

    Nich.



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    Nicholas John Peter Tinker - # 484

    Manufactured on Tuesday 27th April 2004 @ 12.17.47.
    Commission Number: 24468.
    Brochure Model: M3 Tourer 4.6 V8 260PS.
    Specification Code: L01B.
    CICode: D1511.
    Trim Level: TL8.9 (M3).

    65th ZT-T 260SE to be made out of 114.
    11th ZT-T 260 SE in Pearl Black (PBT) out of 23 produced.

    Manufactured in the UK by MG Rover Group Ltd.


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    Pictures are here: https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=11285&title=zyg0000250&cat=502

    The bolt is per my earlier post in this thread.

    I found the application of heat to be the best way of removing these bolts. The thread-locking material makes them very tight to undo otherwise. The difference heat makes is unbelievable. May I suggest that if you use heat to get the bolts out, they should be perfectly capable of being re-used with a suitable threadlocking compound applied, such as Loctite 270.

    Andrew

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