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    Default Time to put my cards on the table.

    Good evening all how you all doing, hope all is well.
    Hope the cars are running great.

    Right Ok Its time to explain a few things regarding a secret project I have in mind, Not everyone is going to agree with this I know that, But its something I've always wanted to do and I found the perfect car to do it in, this is where the hybrid comes in.

    Right first to be blunt MOTORSPORT.

    Circuit racing for diesel cars.

    I've always wanted to enter a motorsport event and in July will be my first one, It all depends if I can get everything ready in time.
    That's why I've been looking for new work to try and find a better income, plus its every week rather then stop and start.
    As we all know that motorsport is expensive and I'll be honest it will put the car in harms way. I hope nothing happens, but in life there are no guaranties.
    I like to get it done before July if not no matter how long it takes I'll do it, trust me when I say I will I will.

    For last few days I've been speaking to drivers and tuning shops around the UK and Wales, Driver's which I know and classic car fans, plus my friends have pointed me to the right places, which has been great and there input very important. 2nd tuning shops, This is where it gets interesting,
    On a diesel engine we all know that air is the most important part of the combustion of the engine, what do we need MORE AIR, The turbo charger in our cars is very reliable and doesn't suffer breakdowns has much as the BMW Variable Vane turbo.

    But its not enough, its small and compressor wheel is just not big enough to draw masses of volume of air into the engine, it needs to be a little bigger and that's it, I Don't want to go stupid i just want a little faster not 100 bhp 200bhp but just 50 bhp will do me nicely. I'm after acceleration not top end speed. As the track I'm going to be racing as plenty of tight bends and turns, so top end speed it pretty useless.

    But If can get the balance of both even better.

    I've spoken to this a firm a lot regarding fuel injectors, rails, pumps and so on to try and get what I need out of the engine. The M47R is really good engine and like working on the damn thing, I don't want to push the engine too much to the point where the engine has to be rebuilt from scratch, if you catch my drift.http://www.uniteddiesel.co.uk/diesel-in ... -upgrades/

    I've spoken to Kieth a lot regarding this and may have a hybrid turbo for the this car, its bigger then a stranded one, but still have plenty of room to be fitted, in other words its not silly, but does produce a bit more power and if tuned the right way, the turbo it will kick as soon as i need it.
    I've messaged him back and said, once all the funds are in order then I can go for it.
    The injectors can be upgraded as our's are Bosch, there are performance injectors for the M47 including the injector pump.
    I've gave him my numbers off the turbo and manifold, so he knows exactly what the performance are of the turbo and manifold.

    If I play well and I can get away with keeping a lot of the engine standerd.

    But it isn't just performance parts but lot of other bits as well,
    Such as

    Braking system's
    Uprated discs and pads all round
    Brake pipes will need to be done as well

    Suspension
    Coil overs
    Strunt mounts
    dampers all up rated.
    Polly bushes can't forget those.

    Transmission
    Up-rated clutch
    up-rated Flywheel, Single mass


    Fuel and Air
    Inlet maniflod will be custom made in stainless steel.
    A ram air system
    Hybrid turbo.
    Upgraded injectors.
    Intercooler already uprated, needs re-positioning to allow more air flow.
    Fuel injector pump upgrade.
    Possible a bonnet scoop at the back of the engine to cool turbo charger down, but will find out later on in the future.

    Safety
    Helmet and fire resistant overalls
    Fire extinguisher
    Roll cage that can be unbolted to allowe rear seats to be refittted after the race is over and turn it back to a road car.
    bucket seat and 4 or 6 point harness

    So far that's my list and will most liking be updated once again.

    I'm willing to do this and yes I bloody NUTS and that will always be me.

    Can do it?

    YES I CAN AND THIS ENGINE HAS REALLY PROVEN IT CAN TAKE IT.

    Again like at the start of the topic, its not everyone's idea, but if you have your oppnins please let me hear'em. Or if you can advice me as this is my first major project.

    Thank you all for reading and I will be doing a complete write up on all what's going on.

    Its also being booked for a dyno run in Flintshire next week, I'll find out the date pretty soon and this will give me an idea what the engine is currently doing.
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    Cars can be a pain in the backside, The hybrid has had quite a few jobs done I can say it was money well spent.
    Am I going to give up when ever a problem occurs the answer
    NOT A CHANCE IN HELL
    THIS IS ONE CAR I WILL KEEP TO THE END

    LONG LIVE THE ENTHUSIASTS

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    Best of luck - what event is it you are entering??
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    The combustion material is too heavy, you need to increase the calorific value and size of engine by four cylinders.

    Be interesting to see how it goes as some members also have diesels.
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    Hiya all hope you don't mind but I've copied the convo regarding this from the enthusiast site, Carl and Tom made have made me think very hard about this, thge crankshaft is the main coucern, also mtorsport insuance and other things.

    That's some really good info here, yes I will be getting a 2nd car other Rover Or ZT and yes it will be a diesel engine.

    The crankshaft I didn't think of that, I thought the crankshaft could as a diesel engine parts are stronger to cope with a higher compression ratio.
    I'll need to learn more abut the heart of the engine.
    What I'll do if I find a crankshaft on ebay and get the numbers from that, I can send it to Keith and he'll give me the info on what the Crank is cable of withstanding. I'll post this information here.

    Carl and Tom your input has really been helpful and thank you.

    How you doing dave, we weren't able to race the Escort MK2 in the end, due to doors needed replacing, we did get a few tip off, but it tunred out that the doors has sufferd the same fate.

    We had decline, but we still went up to watch, there was one car that stood from the rest and did really.
    What was the do you ask.
    It was a Rover
    7
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    Very modified and it was a KV6 engine.

    That's when I started thinking, what If I tuned my diesel engine?

    What would I get and how would it do compare to other diesel engine cars.
    Well that depends on experience of the driver, which he has none, only done a few track days on the 25 a few years ago In Angelsey, which I'm only 14 miles away from the track.

    But Thank you all I'll take this really seriously and I;ll have more information in the near future.

    How you doing Colin, Its a race event for diesel powerd cars and tuning enthusiasts, at the same time its also good for people who looking for drivers on the track.

    This will give me some experience on the track, plus an idea on what I need out car as well.

    I lack experience this is my first major project.

    if all goes well with funding and buying parts, she should be ready.
    If not then there's always next year.
    Cars can be a pain in the backside, The hybrid has had quite a few jobs done I can say it was money well spent.
    Am I going to give up when ever a problem occurs the answer
    NOT A CHANCE IN HELL
    THIS IS ONE CAR I WILL KEEP TO THE END

    LONG LIVE THE ENTHUSIASTS

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    This is a diesel racing car

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman View Post
    This is a diesel racing car

    As a motorsport enthusiast I never knew they did racing diesel cars.
    Cars can be a pain in the backside, The hybrid has had quite a few jobs done I can say it was money well spent.
    Am I going to give up when ever a problem occurs the answer
    NOT A CHANCE IN HELL
    THIS IS ONE CAR I WILL KEEP TO THE END

    LONG LIVE THE ENTHUSIASTS

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    I've done some reaesrch now and there's garage could Dreadnought garage, just wondering is Paul able to supply me parts? It not a V8, but just wondering is its possible.?
    http://www.dreadnoughtgarage.com/
    Cars can be a pain in the backside, The hybrid has had quite a few jobs done I can say it was money well spent.
    Am I going to give up when ever a problem occurs the answer
    NOT A CHANCE IN HELL
    THIS IS ONE CAR I WILL KEEP TO THE END

    LONG LIVE THE ENTHUSIASTS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Hybrid View Post
    I've done some reaesrch now and there's garage could Dreadnought garage, just wondering is Paul able to supply me parts? It not a V8, but just wondering is its possible.?
    http://www.dreadnoughtgarage.com/
    also known for the S/C conversions for the V8..............................research hey...................
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    Trying to find parts this is going to be a lot tougher then I thought,


    This is what I'm going to do first

    1 Braking systems, no point having a fast car when the brakes are dinosaur era.
    2 Suspension for better handling.
    3 Gearbox and clutch system, give me the grunt I need to pull in every gear.
    4 Tyres, I've bought my ZT alloys which are being hydo dipped, Tyres are going to be Bridgestone very good.
    5 safety equipment, things you need on the track and for car safety for driver and passenger.
    6 Weight reduction, remove trim that slows the car down and fit it to either other 75 or ZT, If do get other the same space spec like my Rover then the trim can be slod to members.
    7 Last and not least engine performance upgrades. Upgrades that will allow more fuel and air into the engine, plus cooling upagrdes and other major parts, LIKE THE CRANKSHAFT.
    Cars can be a pain in the backside, The hybrid has had quite a few jobs done I can say it was money well spent.
    Am I going to give up when ever a problem occurs the answer
    NOT A CHANCE IN HELL
    THIS IS ONE CAR I WILL KEEP TO THE END

    LONG LIVE THE ENTHUSIASTS

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    I need to ask a question, has anyone here doing tuning to any motorsport vehicles, I don't mean the V8 but any diesel car?

    Also regarding parts where the best places to go?

    I've sorted out the hybrid turbo and manifold, injectors and injector pump.
    But otherwise nothing else.
    Cars can be a pain in the backside, The hybrid has had quite a few jobs done I can say it was money well spent.
    Am I going to give up when ever a problem occurs the answer
    NOT A CHANCE IN HELL
    THIS IS ONE CAR I WILL KEEP TO THE END

    LONG LIVE THE ENTHUSIASTS

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