Any available the days? I need one! How many hours does the job typically take?
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Any available the days? I need one! How many hours does the job typically take?
Can it be repaired like others are doing?
The MGOC have done several now
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This may be of interest https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc26...wer-cross-beam
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Not sure what the others were like by mine is pretty bad!! So glad they picked it up, would hate to think what would happen if it gave way while driving. Pictures below, apart from seriously corroded parts the rest of it doesn't look in good shape either. I've contact a place in the Netherlands who are putting together a delivery estimate for me. Don't think it'll be cheap! The guy at the Bodytech place was really good actually. He said he knows somebody in the fabrication business who could fix it up. But part of me thinks with the level of corrosion I might end up doing the same thing a couple of years down on a different part of the frame.
https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc26...achmentid=4824
https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc26...achmentid=4825
The odd thing is there was no mention of this on the cars last MOT which was before I bought it! I can't imagine all that corrosion happened in less than a year.
Blimey that is bad (and as you say one hell of a deterioration in a year). :(
Best wishes for getting sorted.
Oooops
What vin and how many miles ??
Good luck :thumb
No.164 @ 49k miles. Still can't believe how bad it is!
Forgot to ask. Is there anything else which should be replaced while the subframe is off (bushes, bearings, etc)?
Also, how long does the job take so I can get an idea of cost in my head?
Brown and Gammons are showing them in stock, if that helps! :confused:
http://www.ukmgparts.com/product.asp...e-ee650e7e5e1f
Hi
The BRown and Gammons price appears high at £750
BUT! we have heard of people spending in excess of £400 for a repair
Judging by the state yours is in it may be best to go the extra mile and buy a complete frame
Don't rush into it if you can manage without the car for a while, something might turn up in the meantime
I also note you live near the coast, salt laden air etc. Did the previous owner also live in that area
I wish you all the set
Dave
Thanks all. I did try Brown & Gammons, the lady said they didn't have any in stock and would update the online listing. Tried pretty much everyone else I could find. One chap managed to speak to the company who produced them originally (caterpillar or something like that) and the sale person said they're not aware of the any plans to produce more. Kind of worrying.
Wow - that is terrifying! Everyone should have a quick look under their car while they are relaxing over Easter! And here I am worrying about some rusty nuts and bolts on mine! In terms of other jobs, you should also see how the toe-in and camber adjustment bolts are as they are bound to be seized solid if your cross-tube is anything to go by.
A year or two ago, one of the collective posted some photos of his complete rear subframe out of the car, cleaned up and painted, together with some discussion of how long it took, etc. I can't find it under the "How To" listing, but I'm sure Herman will find it in a few seconds. I'm tempted to do the same on mine as I have already taken a fair amount off just to do the camber and toe-in bolts (which I had to cut out with the angle grinder - photos to come in a while), springs out, lower arm dropped, anti-sway bar disconnected, etc. There can't be much more to undo!
I think I may have seen the thread you're referring a while back, a random search took me there. Some very good restoration and loads of pictures. I'll have a look for it again.
... Still can't believe it. Went in for a standard check up and they found this!! I'm very lucky in one respect. The strangest thing is I've had both rear wheels off recently had a good look around but didn't see it. I think because I was looking from the top down. Having a car on ramps really can make a difference.
I've got a theory what's causing this will check on mine this weekend weather permitting
Keep us posted!
It's like the Mini all over again !!!!!
Speaking of the mini, here's my MG1100 subframe. It would be nice to do this with the 260, but far too much work getting the whole thing out...
Thanks for the vote of confidence :) Thread is here https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc26......#post121553 but unfortunately the attachments won't open
If Brown and Gammons are out of stock, then this could become a major problem for the survival of these cars! :(
It may be worth the Club contacting some Companies with a view to see whether they could repair or re-manufacture replacement sub-frames and have included some suggestions below! :)
http://www.rtracing.co.uk/content/tv...storation.html
http://www.southwaysautomotive.co.uk...vices/tvr-work
http://www.str8six.co.uk/Chassis%20Repairs/page5.html
http://www.sportmotive.com/chassis.html
http://www.willowsportscars.co.uk/chassis_repair.html
I think it's a problem already with only 2 known spare frames left in the world! The lady at Brown & Gammons said the stock they did have was bought from the Rover plant when they went bust. So I get the impression that spares have never been made since production. We've just been using up surplus stock from the old days.
Have you tried Andy at Bespoke auto developments? I got my complete rear stuff up from there as did a few others, he must be worth a call.
I seem to remember about a year or so ago that Brown & Gammons sold them all off for peanuts, £60.00 or so. I think because they were slow turnover items they needed the space. Seem to remember somebody in Germany or Holland buying a few
There also seems to be two threads running about sub frames at the moment. Maybe you aught to advertise your need on the other thread
Dave
Try contacting Eric on here
He knows of some in Holland :thumb
Would assume rust from the inside due to lack of protection :)
Drill a 6mm hole in the lower center, use the holes at the top to put in any type of rust inhibitor if you have the holes (if not drill again)
Fill until it drips out of the newly drilled hole...............done.................
Attachment 4830I know that former MG/Rover dealer Hofstee in Drachten, Holland has two new ( and powdercoated-) subframes. He bought these from me 2 years ago. I tried last year to buy them back but the best price then was retailprice minus 30%! I sold them for 120 euro each.....wish I kept them...
If only Eric, if only!
You still coming to MGFIM ??
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:ash... but I am coming to the MGFIM....reminds me of booking the hotel!
Wow that does look bad.I find it surprising that some serious corrosion wasn't visible at the last MOT.
It might be worth people giving their rear subframes a quick check just to be on the safe side.
I believe it's only been a problem on earlier cars so far.Is this just because they're a little bit older or is there a difference in the spec. on the later cars?
Checked mine with an endoscope looks like the E D on the inside is very poor or non existent we have a similar problem at work it takes a lot of experimentation to get it right air pockets inside the tube. As Herman says load it up with waxoyl or similar. Luckily mine seems to be in remarkably good condition and i shall be taking steps to ensure it stays that way! Don't be lazy check yours and sort it before it's to late. The later car's might be better protected, manufacturing techniques could have improved but I wouldn't risk it. I know this doesn't help those already afflicted but it could stop it happening to you
Update on this if anybody's interested in knowing. Dom (Dominic22) very kindly contacted me and managed to get me a subframe! Massive thanks to Dom for this, top bloke! Took delivery of it today, got a little worried as it was so late (apparently an armed robbery locally had caused roads to be shut and therefore delayed things). Tomorrow I have arranged with a local company (KMA Shot Blasting) to have the frame spot blasted and powder coated, I'm not sure if they quoted me right but they said £60 (seems a bit cheap to me but then I don't know how much it should cost). Apparently I can choose my colour, was thinking black but would another colour be better for showing up corrosion if any were to occur? The guy at KMA said the frame would be ready on Monday so then I can drive it up to Bodytech in Salisbury for them to fit.
Just by coincidence we had a industrial cleaning specialist come into our factory office today to suggest alternative ways to clean our extruder components. I showed him my car frame for advice and he explained about how modern cars are protected with some kind of Zinc compound (can't remember exactly the compound he said), which apparently is what KMA will use to prime the frame before the coating. I showed him the email KMA sent me and he said that's the best stuff to use. So I have a specialist approval on what the company will be doing for me. Always good to know.
... Almost there now!
That's a good result then :thumb
:D That made me laugh!
I've just dropped off the subframe to be blasted/coated. Apparently the company do a lot of subframes for other MG's too, particularly the TF's. A local garage specialises in restoring them and sends the frames to this company. I'm going to try to find out more, it might be useful for any local members down this way.