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bigkeeko
11-06-2010, 03:20 AM
I`ve been considering a MG ZT260 for a while now (mainly the V8 thing) and have been sniffing round them and V8 75s for about a year now but lately have been sidetracked by Ford Mustangs (late sn95s). Just wondering what any of you guys thought of this as alternative in the event of a ZT sale not going ahead. (tin hat on http://www.mocgb.net/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
4.6 V8 etc but in a slightly different package.

Opinions appreciated.

Malcolmr
11-06-2010, 06:00 AM
Brian - I'm glad you are wearing your tin hat! A fiercely proud Brit would never think of buying a Mustang ahead of one of the finest and last proudly Brit-built cars with a heritage dating back to the 1920s! :-)

greeners
11-06-2010, 11:54 AM
I`ve been considering a MG ZT260 for a while now (mainly the V8 thing) and have been sniffing round them and V8 75s for about a year now but lately have been sidetracked by Ford Mustangs (late sn95s). Just wondering what any of you guys thought of this as alternative in the event of a ZT sale not going ahead. (tin hat on http://www.mocgb.net/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
4.6 V8 etc but in a slightly different package.

Opinions appreciated.

A strange question to ask here.......:run

dobbo
11-06-2010, 01:07 PM
The Mustang is a left hooker - on that basis alone, no thanks!

Will.S
11-06-2010, 01:33 PM
Like most American cars it's good at going in a straight line but has trouble going around corners! This isn't helped by the fact that the earlier ones - like a lot of yank cars still! - it has a live rear axle,like the one on my first car, a Morris Minor,which was built in 1969.......need I say more?

Phil
11-06-2010, 01:40 PM
The new ones are nice looking cars and I have seen one or two RHD conversions, but the interior puts me off.

SH4RKY
11-06-2010, 02:16 PM
Yeah, only the newest ones and the earliest ones have my interest. The stuff in the middle (90s etc) is all a bit meh...

For the UK, the 260 is the perfect match. Its been designed and developed for the UK roads. So Tank V8 mixed with Euro chassis.

bigkeeko
11-06-2010, 04:14 PM
Brian - I'm glad you are wearing your tin hat! A fiercely proud Brit would never think of buying a Mustang ahead of one of the finest and last proudly Brit-built cars with a heritage dating back to the 1920s! :-)

touche. Just the answer I needed in my moment of ill judgement.

On that response alone the Mustangs have been 101`d.;)

SJR
11-06-2010, 06:31 PM
Hi,
I have also answered your question over on the Mustang owners site. I told you to get an eightees Mustang like mine........only joking I was singing the praises of the 260.

As for the Mustang. Anyone that has actually owned/driven a late 80s early 90s Mustang will know they are awesome, the pick of the bunch. except for the fact that you can't go round corners in them. :confused::rolleyes::Duh. I would be happy to demonstrate the cornering abilities of mine.:)


SJR

bigkeeko
11-06-2010, 09:11 PM
I appreciate your input SJR ;)

The bottom line is I`m going to buy a V8 car of some description. I had my fill of 4 bangers V6s and turbos. The big V8 roar is where its at for me now. I`ve had some great cars but never ones that made the perfect tune. I`m 41 and feel that as I get on in life if I don`t get one now I`ll end up driving a Toyota avensis estate or something and checking out pension plans.
I had a good chat with Phil earlier regarding his 260. I`m a fussy ba$tard when it comes to cars and they have to be `right` or i won`t buy it. Its pretty expensive, BUT, I get the feeling its a good one so we`ll see how it goes.
If the truth be told its a British car for me (ok its got a yank engine) and I have put the feelers out for a Mustang. Watch the Bullitt chase scene and tell me you`re not into that kinda thing.
An sn95 Bullitt was top of my list in opposition to the 260. Although the new 5th gen are handsome cars I can`t justify £20k for `an image`

Like most guys I like LOADS of different makes and types of car and couldn`t hand on heart say that one is better than all. I just love cars. But this time it must have eight cylinders.:)

V8 Novi
12-06-2010, 09:31 PM
What do you think of the Vauxhall Monaro? :~

Herman
12-06-2010, 10:01 PM
What do you think of the Vauxhall Monaro? :~

Overpowered Vectra???:fight2

bigkeeko
12-06-2010, 11:52 PM
What do you think of the Vauxhall Monaro? :~

Fast Calibra.

ColinE
13-06-2010, 02:23 AM
No heated mirrors - forget it........................

SH4RKY
13-06-2010, 11:51 PM
They do have 'Presence' though. Mainly becuase they are flipping HUGE

ColinE
14-06-2010, 12:00 AM
Seen a couple recently and they are growing in appeal

2V8s
15-06-2010, 03:18 PM
and, the Monaro is, :~ dare I say it, quicker than the 260 and much more tunable engine.

But, for what you get for your money - I still love the 260.

current shape mustang you can get for about 11k I have seen? but they are STILL live rear axle unless you get the shelby top of the range jobbie.

colintf
15-06-2010, 03:23 PM
Mustang's are a legend

MG's have pedigree

Vauxhall....mmmm can only think rep mobile. Sorry

:~

2V8s
15-06-2010, 03:25 PM
Indeed, one day I'll have me a mid-sixties Mustang convertible 289 V8. Not for pace and handling, just classic good looks and style :)

colintf
15-06-2010, 03:29 PM
Indeed, one day I'll have me a mid-sixties Mustang convertible 289 V8. Not for pace and handling, just classic good looks and style :)

Route 66 in a 66 convertible Mustang....oneday maybe :thumb

Julianp
15-06-2010, 05:45 PM
and, the Monaro is, :~ dare I say it, quicker than the 260 and much more tunable engine.

But, for what you get for your money - I still love the 260.

current shape mustang you can get for about 11k I have seen? but they are STILL live rear axle unless you get the shelby top of the range jobbie.

Even the current Shelby has a live rear axle, I think. Afaik, the only Mustang to have IRS (independent rear suspension) was the 2003-04 Mustang Cobra SVT, which was the last of the older shape (SN95) Mustangs. It had a supercharged engine putting out 390 bhp, which must have been some car. Apparently the US market preferred the older live axle set-up as it was easier to modify.

Julian (ex-Mustang owner).

2V8s
15-06-2010, 06:10 PM
hmmm, i'm sure I remember reading there has been a limited model of the current shape mustang to be fitted with IRS - I shall investigate! If not the Shelby then there must be an even hotter model!

in fact - it looks to be the GT500KR version or something like that - or maybe a tuning company had fitted aftermarket IRS? I saw it on ebay I think....


http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/4301464

AndyG
15-06-2010, 06:14 PM
Indeed, one day I'll have me a mid-sixties Mustang convertible 289 V8. Not for pace and handling, just classic good looks and style :)

A couple from my collection:

http://thumbsnap.com/s/kauVdMjg.jpg (http://thumbsnap.com/kauVdMjg)

http://thumbsnap.com/s/vtaVQjwq.jpg (http://thumbsnap.com/vtaVQjwq)

http://thumbsnap.com/s/aAJJIMpH.jpg (http://thumbsnap.com/aAJJIMpH)

2V8s
15-06-2010, 06:17 PM
currently looking at these (on my PC....not unfortunately with any funds :()


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170495753357

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-MUSTANG-CLASSIC-LHD-CONVERTIBLE-1967-AUTOMATIC-/160439498619?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item255af0777b

SJR
16-06-2010, 05:44 PM
Even the current Shelby has a live rear axle, I think. Afaik, the only Mustang to have IRS (independent rear suspension) was the 2003-04 Mustang Cobra SVT, which was the last of the older shape (SN95) Mustangs. It had a supercharged engine putting out 390 bhp, which must have been some car. Apparently the US market preferred the older live axle set-up as it was easier to modify.

Julian (ex-Mustang owner).

The 03/04 Cobra is an amazing bit of kit. It is the only Mustang that I could consider replacing mine with. They make 500 HP with just a smaller supercharger pulley and a re-map.

SJR

John Newey
17-06-2010, 06:30 PM
Well the question originally asked-what instead of?-I have loved the sound of a V8 since I was a kid and eventually bought a MG ZT 260SE after MG Rovers demise and I don't think there is a better value for money sorted V8 out there. I have also since bought a MG RV8 and more recently a MG SV-R, so the V8 sound is firmly in my blood! Sometimes I think I must be crazy and then I get back into one of my cars and the smiles keep on coming back:)! As you say-it is a question of how much do you spend to satisfy that mid life desire? The ZT V8 can't easily be beaten....Go for it:D!

NOCTURNAL
17-06-2010, 06:46 PM
Seen a couple recently and they are growing in appeal

I think they are fantastic.... but have to have the nostrils.... an online buddy has the 6L supercharged with aftermarket exhaust and the sound is incredible... it sounds like a race car the way it barks... whilst the interior trim is indeed Poxhall theres more than a little Hsv involved underneath ;)

V8 Martin
19-06-2010, 12:15 AM
I think they are fantastic.... but have to have the nostrils.... an online buddy has the 6L supercharged with aftermarket exhaust and the sound is incredible... it sounds like a race car the way it barks... whilst the interior trim is indeed Poxhall theres more than a little Hsv involved underneath ;)

I ran a 6.0VXR for a short while. The motor is totally awesome - properly big grunt from anywhere in the range and a wonderful noise with the loud exhausts.

However, I sold it & carried on with 260's, as the Monaro feels wide, soft & baggy compared to the hard nut MG which is just so unbelievably well suited to UK roads if you like driving a bit hard.

Each to their own, but to me the Monaro is built for monstering long straight AUS outback roads and the 260 to our uniquely varied & twisty UK tarmac.

RoverSteve
11-08-2010, 01:06 AM
I appreciate your input SJR ;)

The bottom line is I`m going to buy a V8 car of some description. I had my fill of 4 bangers V6s and turbos. The big V8 roar is where its at for me now. I`ve had some great cars but never ones that made the perfect tune. I`m 41 and feel that as I get on in life if I don`t get one now I`ll end up driving a Toyota avensis estate or something and checking out pension plans.
I had a good chat with Phil earlier regarding his 260. I`m a fussy ba$tard when it comes to cars and they have to be `right` or i won`t buy it. Its pretty expensive, BUT, I get the feeling its a good one so we`ll see how it goes.
If the truth be told its a British car for me (ok its got a yank engine) and I have put the feelers out for a Mustang. Watch the Bullitt chase scene and tell me you`re not into that kinda thing.
An sn95 Bullitt was top of my list in opposition to the 260. Although the new 5th gen are handsome cars I can`t justify £20k for `an image`

Like most guys I like LOADS of different makes and types of car and couldn`t hand on heart say that one is better than all. I just love cars. But this time it must have eight cylinders.:)


Being new I'm looking at past threads and this one I had a bit of a laugh at Bigkeekos comment of "ok its got a yank engine". 99% (that I'm aware of) of all British V8 cars are American powered. Including some of the greatest cars ever built! Number one on my list is Ford's GT40 (built in Slough) from the early 60's which used a 425 SOCH Cobra Jet. After 3 or 4 years was outlawed by race officials because NO ONE could beat it.....all because Enzo Ferrari pissed off Henry Ford Jr. Now thats Yankee ingenuity, Limey engineering at its best!

SH4RKY
11-08-2010, 09:03 AM
If i had the money i would go out and buy one of these tomorrow:

http://www.gonein60seconds.biz/images/eleanor_gt500_shelby_mustang_side.jpg

http://www.dreams-cars.org/images/Galerie/Shelby/Shelby_GT500_Eleanor_1967/Shelby_GT500_Eleanor_1967_03.jpg


Called the Super Snake or something. rebuilt with modern brakes etc. Luurvely.

colintf
11-08-2010, 07:19 PM
God that looks good ian :thumb

SJR
15-08-2010, 09:32 AM
If i had the money i would go out and buy one of these tomorrow:

http://www.gonein60seconds.biz/images/eleanor_gt500_shelby_mustang_side.jpg

http://www.dreams-cars.org/images/Galerie/Shelby/Shelby_GT500_Eleanor_1967/Shelby_GT500_Eleanor_1967_03.jpg


Called the Super Snake or something. rebuilt with modern brakes etc. Luurvely.


They are called Eleanors. Like the one from the film "Gone in sixty seconds" (The remake) They are based on GT500s.

SJR

colintf
15-08-2010, 10:21 AM
looks mean and evil :thumb

bigkeeko
16-08-2010, 07:52 PM
Well after much faffing around and seeing as I started this thread I feel I should finish on it. I`ve finally made a choice and splashed the cash. This is my new toy. Its a genuinely minted low mileage car.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/bigkeeko/Image003.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/bigkeeko/Image007.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/bigkeeko/Image001.jpg


I was torn between the two and I have my reasons for buying the Mustang and although I still do appreciate the ZT I didn't see the point of fucking about and getting a `taxi` with a Mustang engine and pretending to have something different.

SJR
16-08-2010, 08:14 PM
Very Nice. I like the colour.;)

You will have to join the Mustang Owners club of GB. I might see you at an event.

1999 Cobra wheels like mine too.


http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss242/sjr302/Cars063.jpg
SJR

bigkeeko
16-08-2010, 08:36 PM
Very Nice. I like the colour.;)

You will have to join the Mustang Owners club of GB.

I`ve joined. ;) Admittedly my wheels were refurbed by the previous owner. Top job too. Although admittedly I preferred Bullitts they do look good in grey though and suit the car I think.

colintf
16-08-2010, 09:05 PM
very nice to :thumb