Potential Group Buy of 'New' Xpowers

[ColinE]

Further to other threads on the issue, here's a new thread to guage interest in a group buy of new Xpowers from Janspeed.

A number of members are expressing interest in these and the Zero's (me included) so expressing an interest is not seen as a commitment to buy, both products and prices need to be better understood first.

To keep things clear I'll maintain a saloon list and tourer list so we have requirements clear from the start. Initial discussions relate to new production run of oval X-powers.

Please either PM me or post interest and I'll maintain the list here in post #1. Please state which version you are interested in.

Saloon
T16
SH4RKY
rls
Ajay
damienp
gaz the gas
bainzi
colintf
SteveW
Precious Metal (2)
Tonybubble
Big Frank
Stu C
Ken B (if quad pipe varient available)
Max260
Stu.S
Klaus
Stuart260
Stefano

Tourer
BRM494
KCV
Tonybubble
Martin

[SH4RKY]

Saloon. Depending on price.

[rls]

Saloon, Depending on price. (Possibly twin rounds instead of oval ???)

[pessling]

would like to see the price first, but i thought Tim and kevin at zero's was producing new ovals and i bet the quality of the zero's is better than janspeeds. Having had zero's and knowing the quality, although the x powers can be polished up nice, they don't feel as well made

[SH4RKY]

True. Only issues I have with zeroes are the price. If there is a chance of getting some xpowers at a decent price, then im interested.

[Ajay]

Interested but depends on the price and also depends on how the Zero version turns out.:~

[Ajay]

Best put me down for a saloon set :o

In fact, just have me put down:fight2:p

[damienp]

I'd love some xpowers for my saloon please, but like most others, it's price dependant. Thankyou.

[gaz the gas]

same here....price

[Bainzi]

Im interested, also dependant on price.

[colintf]

depending on price, maybe?

:thumb

[BRM494]

As per my post #48 in other thread :-


Also, Janspeed being Janspeed, might easily do either single large oval or twin round tail pipes ? (As they do, or used to do, for the ZR box, I have one Oval and two twin round.)

If the price is sensible then I'm in for a set.

(Tim, might need to start a new thread ?)

So dependant on price and Tailpipe options I'm ready to go and collect a set of Tourers, so please add me to the list !!

As Peter has said Zero's clean up nice and are great for the Polishers. The Drivers choice, however, must be the Xpowers. Thanks BaldyBloke, the memory of you leaving the Bulls Head lives on, and Stu on Test Hill......

[ColinE]

Post #1 updated to this point

[SteveW]

Dependant upon price and quality, I could be interested.

Pity I couldn't get my hands on an X-power, else I would have asked the chap who made my silencers if he could manufacture a silencer that reproduces the X-power's sound, but utilising better materials.

[kcv]

Like others depending on price etc I would be interested in a set for a tourer

[precious metal]

yes also interested in a saloon set (or 2) to keep in stock, as most have said it depends on price ?

regards

JB

[tonybubble]

Price dependent interest in saloon set and tourer set.

[ColinE]

List updated

[Big Frank]

I'm interested for a set of xpowers for my saloon depending on price

[Martin]

Me to please would like to know cost but sure I would go ahead although the 4 pipe not ovals. so 1 set for tourer TA

Martin

[T16]

OK well I count 17 people so far.

I am awaiting a reply from my detailed email and conversation with Janspeed.

If we get 20 its certainly a decent sized order, and I am hoping that we will get a really good price, at LEAST a fair bit cheaper than the X-Power price, since they were tacking on their margin anyway...

Watch this space... I will update as soon as I hear back.

[ColinE]

Just to clarify T16, this is a list of 17 people who have expressed an interest it is not an order. Most are waiting to see what the price is and how this compares to the new solution being proposed by Zero exhausts.

Not trying to teach you how to suck eggs but need to be 100% clear on this when talking to Janspeed, I am sure Tim will update on the latest status of the Zero discussions shortly

[T16]

Obviously...., im not stupid!

You know what I mean. We need numbers first, which I stated as 20 pairs of exhausts, so lets see what deal they can do us based on that qty.

As long as we get definite pricing, we can turn it into a proper group buy should we wish to proceed.

More exhausts = cheaper price for everyone, hence the need to establish what sort of interest this may generate.

[Stu C]

Intrested and as the others depending on price. I'd like a nice set, and keep my tubes in the current set (we're moving house soon and may want to be stealth for a while lol!)

[Martin]

Intrested and as the others depending on price. I'd like a nice set, and keep my tubes in the current set (we're moving house soon and may want to be stealth for a while lol!)

Stealth!!!!!!!!!! not with your car :D

[BRM494]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/jetsk1/ZRX/bcb96886.jpg

That's one of the JanSpeed products I own, and if that was possible T16 it would be great ?

[Tim]

I don't think the implication was that you are stupid Ross just clarifying the details. It's not a small amount of money all said and done.

Be interesting to see how this develops, hopefully get Kevin to pull his finger out. :)


Obviously...., im not stupid!

You know what I mean. We need numbers first, which I stated as 20 pairs of exhausts, so lets see what deal they can do us based on that qty.

As long as we get definite pricing, we can turn it into a proper group buy should we wish to proceed.

More exhausts = cheaper price for everyone, hence the need to establish what sort of interest this may generate.

[colintf]

I wonder if they would do a straight through exhaust, to save having to sleeve them?? :)

I would be tempted to get prices for quantities of 5, 10 and 20 myself.

:cool:

[ColinE]

Obviously...., im not stupid!

You know what I mean. We need numbers first, which I stated as 20 pairs of exhausts, so lets see what deal they can do us based on that qty.

As long as we get definite pricing, we can turn it into a proper group buy should we wish to proceed.

More exhausts = cheaper price for everyone, hence the need to establish what sort of interest this may generate.

No implication of stupidity intended

I've had to deal with the aftermath of purchase orders not meeting forecast volumes for special manufacture products before and the individual doing the forecasting to the manufacturer was held financially responsible.

I'll say no more and just keep your list updated for you

[tonybubble]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/jetsk1/ZRX/bcb96886.jpg

That's one of the JanSpeed products I own, and if that was possible T16 it would be great ?

Looks good. What car is that? (He said out of curiosity, noticing registration plate).

[SH4RKY]

Probably his ZX-R ;)

Well, it is. I took photos of it and brooklands :D


But yeah, I love the quads... but Xpower noise makes me drool! So if you could add that into the info request about if its possible to get a twin pipe design it would be appreciated. Guess the noise wouldnt be too different...?

[BRM494]

Looks good. What car is that? (He said out of curiosity, noticing registration plate).

Well spotted Tony, BX05DVG was the factory reg for ZR-X prior to my putting MG03ZRX on. Interestingly the reg shown in the Autoexpress article was something they did, and was never on the car ! See a little more at www.mgzrx.com (http://www.mgzrx.com)

Returning to "on Topic" If we can get Janspeed Xpowers with twin pipes either side then I'll be taking my Zero's off PDQ.

[Klaus]

yes, interested in xpowers for a saloon depending on price. would highly prefer twin pipe version each side if available. thanks!

[ColinE]

List updated to this point

I've left the inclusion of requirements for quad pipe xpowers to T16

[Ken B]

:D I to would be interested but it would have to be quad pipes.:drive

[Max260]

Add mee, I'm interested as well please (saloon). Prefer twins rather than oval if the sound is the same.

[ColinE]

List updated to this point

I've left the inclusion of requirements for quad pipe xpowers to T16, and will leave it to him to comment on whether or not this is possible

[Stu.S]

I've been without internet for a good while now and have come back to find this thread..... hence I would be very interested in a set of these too.

[ColinE]

I've been without internet for a good while now and have come back to find this thread..... hence I would be very interested in a set of these too.

Hi Stu - saloon or tourer?

[Stu.S]

Sorry. Saloon please.....

[ColinE]

List updated

[Max260]

Can we see the list pse.

[kcv]

Do you mean the list as at post number 1 Max

[ColinE]

Can we see the list pse.


See post 1 Max

[Klaus]

Cannot find me on the list, Colin, could you check, please?

[Klaus]

Cannot find me on the list, Colin, could you check, please?



...see post #33, pls

[ColinE]

Sorry Klaus - have now updated the list

Regards

Colin

[Klaus]

...thanks Colin!

Regards, Klaus

[Martin]

Hi is there any joy with this group buy I am now in the zone (ie have some money) to buy am looking at Quads for ZT-T if not I guess it would be Zero's. Ta

Martin

[T16]

Hi guys.

I have an update but not a proper one. I am still chasing this up, and hope to have a reply soon.

I am happy that we have so many people, probably nearly as many as XPower purchased in the first place!

I promise I have not forgotton. We think there is a jig or at least some template pairs kicking around.

[Roadsterstu]

I'll add my name as an expression of interest. Saloon, ovals, please.

Stu

[ColinE]

I've added you to the list

[re-tread]

My savings jar full of pennies would never get me a visit to Dreadnought before my car reaches 100k :( so a set of shiny new zorsts would be the next best. Add me to the list for a set of quads.

[scooter]

My savings jar full of pennies would never get me a visit to Dreadnought before my car reaches 100k :( so a set of shiny new zorsts would be the next best. Add me to the list for a set of quads. Have done one at 80k and would have no worries at 100k as long as the car had been service to the book.

[re-tread]

Thanks Brian, that one post has just changed all my plans ;)

Time to start some serious saving :D , hold those zorsts.

[ColinE]

Left you off for now Dave

Let me know if you change your mind

[BRM494]

Hi guys.

I have an update but not a proper one. I am still chasing this up, and hope to have a reply soon.

I am happy that we have so many people, probably nearly as many as XPower purchased in the first place!

I promise I have not forgotton. We think there is a jig or at least some template pairs kicking around.

Hi T16,

Has the update gained any "properness" in the last month ?

Thanks,
Bruce.

[ColinE]

Hi Ross

Any update on your discussions with Janspeed - as we understand it Xpart are putting the Xpower boxes back into production

[Will.S]

I too would be interested, but as with everyone else it depends on price. Quads, saloon please

[Yo Gurt!!]

A pair of spare ovals for my LHD ZT-T would be nice. Also depending on price though.

[StephenL]

Hi

Is there any update on this? After hearing XPowers in the flesh a couple of times, I've decided to replace my standard exhausts.

Also, how does the news that XPart are going to be making the exhausts again (Scooter's post (https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/f0rum/showthread.php?t=6856)) affect this initiative?

[ColinE]

Hopefully T16 will be along to update soon

It may be that Janspeed are not keen to supply us if Xpart are back in the game

[Stefano]

saloon depending on price

[Stefano]

saloon depending on price

[ColinE]

List updated,

T16 - do you have any news yet

[T16]

Not yet.

Starting to get very irritated, but I will persevere and I hope to have something soon.

[Klaus]

Are there any news on that?
Will start in the summer with new exhausts. (hope so:D)

[Big Frank]

NO sorry I'm not volunteering to do anything - I have just done my bit with the handbrake cables - but I recall being in touch with a company in the Bristol area who build specialised stainless steel exhausts. If I remember correctly a fellow member had had replica Zero units made for around £300 the pair and seemed well pleased. I enquired mid-last year and the price was then £350 but that was based upon just one enquiry - perhaps it's worth looking in to?

[SteveW]

Finding somewhere that could make some is not the difficult part. I've no doubt the company I used to have mine made could do it (FWIW mine were £300 a pair fully fitted).

The problem is to reproduce the X-Powers closely requires an example to copy. This process could entail cutting one open.
Unfortunately due the rarity and value unless an odd cheap X-power can be located to use for reverse engineering, I cant see any progress being made in this direction :(

The best option is probably trying to convince the original manufacturer there is great enough demand for them to make a batch, or at least getting them to quote for a batch of 10 pairs say, and then find a way of raising funds to get them manufactured.

[colintf]

D'oh! a new single tourer V8 XPower went for approx £80 on ebay not that long ago! I was semi tempted to buy it and wait for the opposite side one to surface!

Wonder what a 260 on Cherry Bombs sounds like?

:~

[SteveW]

D'oh! a new single tourer V8 XPower went for approx £80 on ebay not that long ago! I was semi tempted to buy it and wait for the opposite side one to surface!

Wonder what a 260 on Cherry Bombs sounds like?

:~

I have been considering testing that out, as the place that made my silencers also happens to sell them.
He fitted a pair to the blue 4WD V8 midget that was on show at Stonelegh a couple of years ago, car also now has a mad max style throttle body sticking through the bonnet :D

[colintf]

I have been considering testing that out, as the place that made my silencers also happens to sell them.
He fitted a pair to the blue 4WD V8 midget that was on show at Stonelegh a couple of years ago, car also now has a mad max style throttle body sticking through the bonnet :D

would love to see / hear that test if you ever do it Steve :)

[Big Frank]

Hi, just out of interest I have just got a quote from a company in the Midlands and they have provided a price of £179 per box inc VAT made whilst you wait. They look like top quality S/S units and you can select the amoint of noise you want and they have software which will give you some idea before you commit yourself. Loads of choices on tail pipe configurations as well.

Big Frank

[Coasting]

Regarding X Powers, I am sure anyone can make similar exhausts in fact exhausts that nobody would be able to tell the difference, but surely the value in the X Powers is that they are original MG ones no matter how silly that may be?

A bit like an antique book, first versions sell for silly money yet you can still get the book for £2 from smiths!

Not that I am biased at all...

Vroom Vroom!

:drive

[colintf]

Regarding X Powers, I am sure anyone can make similar exhausts in fact exhausts that nobody would be able to tell the difference, but surely the value in the X Powers is that they are original MG ones no matter how silly that may be?

A bit like an antique book, first versions sell for silly money yet you can still get the book for £2 from smiths!

Not that I am biased at all...

Vroom Vroom!

:drive

if we could get the orogional manufacturer to remanufacture then that would be ok :)

[SH4RKY]

Regarding X Powers, I am sure anyone can make similar exhausts in fact exhausts that nobody would be able to tell the difference, but surely the value in the X Powers is that they are original MG ones no matter how silly that may be?

A bit like an antique book, first versions sell for silly money yet you can still get the book for £2 from smiths!

Not that I am biased at all...

Vroom Vroom!

:drive

Funny, because the copies would probably be better quality! haha ;)

[damienp]

Hi, just out of interest I have just got a quote from a company in the Midlands and they have provided a price of £179 per box inc VAT made whilst you wait. They look like top quality S/S units and you can select the amoint of noise you want and they have software which will give you some idea before you commit yourself. Loads of choices on tail pipe configurations as well.

Big Frank

Round here, they're called powerflow. And powerflows dont sound anything like xpowers.... not one bit.

[tonybubble]

I have experienced X Powers on 455, standard silencers on 288 and these custom made tail pipes on 700 (but I don't know where they were made) and the latter is so far my favourite - a really nice sound, but not too noisy. :)

Perhaps I need to re-evaluate the X Powers with the famous sleeves. :D

https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/gallery/albums/560/ZT_260_003.jpg (https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=2059)

[Tim]

Kevin was making combined quads like that, try him.

[Ajay]

I think Martin (Merl) has a set of similar design on his 260. He may know who/what/where/when :)

[colintf]

I think Martin (Merl) has a set of similar design on his 260. He may know who/what/where/when :)

that's what i thought to Andrew. Also think Martin said they were powerflows, but I could be wrong!!

:cool:

[Ken B]

Hi. Cobra sport performance exhausts of Sheffield have recently quoted me "For the Rear box sections with a choice of tailpipes and sounds would be £375 fully fitted". They go under the name Exhaustsuk Ltd.
I have also recieved a quote from Zero for quads "The boxes are £415 for the set and the shipping to UK mainland is £15. This is a members price".
Zero also do Xpower copies with oval tail pipes, i hav'nt enquired about these yet but after seeing and hearing V8NDV,s XPOWERS it may well be this route for me soon...:love
Ken...

[Merl]

I have experienced X Powers on 455, standard silencers on 288 and these custom made tail pipes on 700 (but I don't know where they were made) and the latter is so far my favourite - a really nice sound, but not too noisy. :)

Perhaps I need to re-evaluate the X Powers with the famous sleeves. :D

https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/gallery/albums/560/ZT_260_003.jpg (https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=2059)


I think Martin (Merl) has a set of similar design on his 260. He may know who/what/where/when :)


that's what i thought to Andrew. Also think Martin said they were powerflows, but I could be wrong!!

:cool:

Yup had mine fitted for almost 2 years now! Powerflows are all custom made so they will never really sound the same! And now I am not unique with my tail pipes so maybe time for a change? They do suit the 260 though so good choice :D

I had mine done by the Powerflow specialist here in Crewe but going to go down to a place in the Midlands that was posted in another thread on here and see what they can do! been thinking of the twin pipes down the car again...

[Coasting]

I only have experience of the standard exhaust and the X-Powers I now have fitted,

But there is something about them, not subtle at all but somehow not silly loud either.

My Aussie Friend was introduced to the ZT yesterday for the first time in the garage.

I said to him, he is probably missing a V8 sound, so fired up 'Enola' in the garage blipped the throttle to hear the pop and crackle etc.

He just stood in amazement and said, 'Thats old school mate!'

Think he liked it :D

[damienp]

Hi. Cobra sport performance exhausts of Sheffield have recently quoted me "For the Rear box sections with a choice of tailpipes and sounds would be £375 fully fitted". They go under the name Exhaustsuk Ltd.
I have also recieved a quote from Zero for quads "The boxes are £415 for the set and the shipping to UK mainland is £15. This is a members price".
Zero also do Xpower copies with oval tail pipes, i hav'nt enquired about these yet but after seeing and hearing V8NDV,s XPOWERS it may well be this route for me soon...:love
Ken...

I've been to exhaustsuk a few times, and all the cars that ive seen and heard look and sound far better than any powerflow'd car that i have ever had.