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phil260
06-10-2023, 01:07 PM
Are the diff mounting brackets available from anywhere or is their a part number for the bracket.

Thankyou Phil

jeff turbo
06-10-2023, 01:18 PM
Are the diff mounting brackets available from anywhere or is their a part number for the bracket.

Thankyou Phil
Have you broken it Phil?

phil260
06-10-2023, 01:23 PM
Have you broken it Phil?

Hi Jeff,
not quite its been knocking for a while whilst going over bumps and it turns out to be the diff mount and one of the diff shocks causing the issues.
found the problem whilst it was having a new clutch fitted....

jeff turbo
06-10-2023, 01:52 PM
Hi Jeff,
not quite its been knocking for a while whilst going over bumps and it turns out to be the diff mount and one of the diff shocks causing the issues.
found the problem whilst it was having a new clutch fitted....
you were a lot quicker than i was doing the clutch no doubt. Diff shocks are available through the club I think, never seen a diff mount fail though but they obviously do. Is it the large plate that the diff bolts to with 2 large bushes or the other one thats at an angle? Post 16 or 17? https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/f0rum/showthread.php?18935-Rear-subframe-removal

phil260
06-10-2023, 02:03 PM
you were a lot quicker than i was doing the clutch no doubt. Diff shocks are available through the club I think, never seen a diff mount fail though but they obviously do. Is it the large plate that the diff bolts to with 2 large bushes or the other one thats at an angle? Post 16 or 17? https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/f0rum/showthread.php?18935-Rear-subframe-removal

I cheated and booked it in to get it done but thats a whole tale in itself .......
its got worn mounting rubbers so im assuming its the large plate that i need.

jeff turbo
06-10-2023, 02:06 PM
I cheated and booked it in to get it done but thats a whole tale in itself .......
its got worn mounting rubbers so im assuming its the large plate that i need.
You can buy the two large bushes Phil, let me check but I changed mine when I rebuild the rear sub frame. I'm sure they were the same as another bush on the car but a different part number

phil260
06-10-2023, 02:13 PM
You can buy the two large bushes Phil, let me check but I changed mine when I rebuild the rear sub frame. I'm sure they were the same as another bush on the car but a different part number
That would be much appreciated thankyou

jeff turbo
06-10-2023, 02:14 PM
Part number for the large bushes are TBS000050, it's the same bush as number 4 https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-TBS000050
Buggar to change but that's what I put on mine as I changed all three bushes, both 4 and 5. It shows a different part number for number 4, from memory that's TBS000040 but I can assure you they're the same. I bought mine from Scott at DMGRS

phil260
06-10-2023, 02:26 PM
Part number for the large bushes are TBS000050, it's the same bush as number 4 https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-TBS000050
Buggar to change but that's what I put on mine as I changed all three bushes, both 4 and 5. It shows a different part number for number 4, from memory that's TBS000040 but I can assure you they're the same. I bought mine from Scott at DMGRS

Thankyou Jeff, i will get some on order this afternoon.

jeff turbo
06-10-2023, 02:28 PM
Thankyou Jeff, i will get some on order this afternoon.

Good luck changing those. I got a friend at kwik fit to do it with their press. Is the clutch done now?

phil260
06-10-2023, 02:49 PM
Good luck changing those. I got a friend at kwik fit to do it with their press. Is the clutch done now?

Clutch was done about 6weeks ago although the car is still with them as they was ment to be doing the rear end whilst they had it. I havent seen it in 14weeks.
I will get my chap who mots my car and van to fit them, at the same time i might get him to fit my discs and pads as they are still sitting here gathering dust.

jeff turbo
06-10-2023, 03:03 PM
Clutch was done about 6weeks ago although the car is still with them as they was ment to be doing the rear end whilst they had it. I havent seen it in 14weeks.
I will get my chap who mots my car and van to fit them, at the same time i might get him to fit my discs and pads as they are still sitting here gathering dust.
14 weeks? Blimey I'm guessing they're having issues?

phil260
06-10-2023, 03:19 PM
14 weeks? Blimey I'm guessing they're having issues?

Yes, but not with my car.

jeff turbo
06-10-2023, 05:55 PM
Bummer, that's not good

phil260
07-10-2023, 11:52 AM
Bummer, that's not good

When ever i get jobs done by other people this car seems to be cursed with crap customer service.

jeff turbo
07-10-2023, 01:14 PM
When ever i get jobs done by other people this car seems to be cursed with crap customer service.

Been there , done that. That's why I try to DIY as much as possible

SCP440
07-10-2023, 10:44 PM
Been there , done that. That's why I try to DIY as much as possible

I agree 100%, the only job I admit I cant do is body and paintwork, I dont have the patience. I would rather spend the money on the tools so I can do the job than pay some one else and then find its not to my standard. Luckily I have a friend who had a body shop.

jeff turbo
08-10-2023, 05:31 AM
I agree 100%, the only job I admit I cant do is body and paintwork, I dont have the patience. I would rather spend the money on the tools so I can do the job than pay some one else and then find its not to my standard. Luckily I have a friend who had a body shop.

I'm beginning to get on a bit now so slowly scaling down what work I do on cars . I sent my son's mg montego turbos engine off to be rebuilt as I didn't want to do that any longer . Completely messed it up so I took it back and did it myself... Again. Comes a point when I now only trust a few places these days but I have to stop at some point.
I feel for Phil though having to wait that long as it shouldn't be like that
If theres something I can't do on my zt I will always send it up to Chris at retro sports as I trust him

phil260
09-10-2023, 06:11 PM
I'm beginning to get on a bit now so slowly scaling down what work I do on cars . I sent my son's mg montego turbos engine off to be rebuilt as I didn't want to do that any longer . Completely messed it up so I took it back and did it myself... Again. Comes a point when I now only trust a few places these days but I have to stop at some point.
I feel for Phil though having to wait that long as it shouldn't be like that
If theres something I can't do on my zt I will always send it up to Chris at retro sports as I trust him

Funny you mention Chris at retro sports, I had a mk1 260 bumper dropped of at my house yesterday by a nice chap called James and his partner is Chris,s daughter..
we had a nice chat...
I think in future i will be using retro sports for any work that needs doing..

David
09-10-2023, 07:04 PM
... I think in future i will be using Retro Sports for any work that needs doing..
You could do worse. Chris' reputation is excellent. Wish he were closer for me :(.

David

phil260
15-10-2023, 01:24 PM
You could do worse. Chris' reputation is excellent. Wish he were closer for me :(.

David

Wish i went to Chris at retro sports, Picked my car up yesterday from the so called specialist i took it to, the clutch now works well but its not happy now blowing from manifold my what was working aircon is now gas free so no aircon now, Engine managment light was on all the way home and the smell of neat fuel so i checked the fuel line and to my suprise fuel leaking out what more annoyed me was the fact it only needed pushing in to locate it.
I then went around all the engine bay and found quite a few loose jubilee clips on the induction side of the engine, the final touch is im now minus a plastic under tray, after the last few messages between myself and the garage before i picked the car up im loosing the will to sort it all out with them.

jeff turbo
15-10-2023, 02:23 PM
Wish i went to Chris at retro sports, Picked my car up yesterday from the so called specialist i took it to, the clutch now works well but its not happy now blowing from manifold my what was working aircon is now gas free so no aircon now, Engine managment light was on all the way home and the smell of neat fuel so i checked the fuel line and to my suprise fuel leaking out what more annoyed me was the fact it only needed pushing in to locate it.
I then went around all the engine bay and found quite a few loose jubilee clips on the induction side of the engine, the final touch is im now minus a plastic under tray, after the last few messages between myself and the garage before i picked the car up im loosing the will to sort it all out with them.

Blimey that's not good at all and sounds a bit like a 'I will give it a go' garage but not telling you.
Engine light maybe due to the fuel issue and/or manifold leak. Can you narrow down what part is leaking? Possibly the gasket to the downpipe?

SCP440
15-10-2023, 03:04 PM
I hear this so often, because a garage can change a set of plugs on a Fiesta they think they can do anything. I have had Interceptors delivered to me on a low loader after a garage cant get it going or no brakes. Specalist cars need specalists and trying to save a few quid by taking somewhere local or handy is often a bad idea.

jeff turbo
15-10-2023, 03:11 PM
I hear this so often, because a garage can change a set of plugs on a Fiesta they think they can do anything. I have had Interceptors delivered to me on a low loader after a garage cant get it going or no brakes. Specalist cars need specalists and trying to save a few quid by taking somewhere local or handy is often a bad idea.

If it was me I would bite the bullet and send it up to Chris to sort it once and for all

phil260
15-10-2023, 06:08 PM
Rover75 and mgzt specialist is who i used, not someone who thought they could do it hence why i had taken 80miles away from me to have it done.
You live and learn as they say.

phil260
15-10-2023, 06:10 PM
If it was me I would bite the bullet and send it up to Chris to sort it once and for all

It was code p2195 which would explain the code with it not fueling correctly.

phil260
15-10-2023, 06:12 PM
If it was me I would bite the bullet and send it up to Chris to sort it once and for all

Im guessing its leaking from where the down pipe meets the manifold as the manifolds wasnt removed when taking the engine out.

jeff turbo
16-10-2023, 08:13 AM
Im guessing its leaking from where the down pipe meets the manifold as the manifolds wasnt removed when taking the engine out.

They may have used the old gasket but it would have needed replacing, are the bolts still on the joint or has one snapped off? It maybe not tightened up enough with luck as other parts were loose as you mentioned .
It's not initials TF is it who did the job?

phil260
17-10-2023, 07:27 PM
They may have used the old gasket but it would have needed replacing, are the bolts still on the joint or has one snapped off? It maybe not tightened up enough with luck as other parts were loose as you mentioned .
It's not initials TF is it who did the job?

Im thinking gaskets havent been replaced, just had 2 new ones delivered today from Austins.

Yes it is jeff.

jeff turbo
17-10-2023, 07:46 PM
Im thinking gaskets havent been replaced, just had 2 new ones delivered today from Austins.

Yes it is jeff.

I thought he had a good reputation but clearly doesn't know much about V8's or how to keep a customer happy. You do know it's very awkward to replace the down pipe gasket in situ ? It's not good that you have to finish the job yourself and to undo the non finished job.

phil260
17-10-2023, 08:24 PM
I thought he had a good reputation but clearly doesn't know much about V8's or how to keep a customer happy. You do know it's very awkward to replace the down pipe gasket in situ ? It's not good that you have to finish the job yourself and to undo the non finished job.

To be fair he has put his hands up to the faults and has said sorry, plus hes sending my undertray back to me via tracked delivery, I dont like to moan or get arsey with people but then i get no where with things.

The down pipes look like a git to do,my local mechanic here who takes care of my van will take a look if need be.

David
17-10-2023, 09:00 PM
To be fair he has put his hands up to the faults and has said sorry, plus hes sending my undertray back to me via tracked delivery, I dont like to moan or get arsey with people but then i get no where with things.

The down pipes look like a git to do,my local mechanic here who takes care of my van will take a look if need be.
That being the case, he should then have put his hands down into his pockets, paid for the car's transport back to him and rectification. For free.
I imagine the bill you just paid was sizeable.

David

jeff turbo
18-10-2023, 07:42 AM
That being the case, he should then have put his hands down into his pockets, paid for the car's transport back to him and rectification. For free.
I imagine the bill you just paid was sizeable.

David

Have to assume so as the engine and gearbox has to come out. After 14 weeks waiting I think Phil is grateful just to have it back . Looks like he will address the issues in due time, have to also assume he's getting some money back as Tom had owned up to the issues he left

phil260
18-10-2023, 02:18 PM
Have to assume so as the engine and gearbox has to come out. After 14 weeks waiting I think Phil is grateful just to have it back . Looks like he will address the issues in due time, have to also assume he's getting some money back as Tom had owned up to the issues he left

I spent a whisper over 2grand, I just want my undertray back and will get the issues fixed here in my home town.
Not fussed about getting money back, just glad to have the car sitting here with me.

jeff turbo
18-10-2023, 02:51 PM
I spent a whisper over 2grand, I just want my undertray back and will get the issues fixed here in my home town.
Not fussed about getting money back, just glad to have the car sitting here with me.
Gulp I must remember not to use his services in the future, best of luck with fixing the issues Phil
You're very generous not wanting any return of the fee
did the rear diff mount bushes get sorted btw? or are you getting someone else to do?

phil260
18-10-2023, 03:32 PM
Gulp I must remember not to use his services in the future, best of luck with fixing the issues Phil
You're very generous not wanting any return of the fee
did the rear diff mount bushes get sorted btw? or are you getting someone else to do?

I did have new coil packs spark plugs and 2 engine mounts fitted aswell for that price,
Yes DMGRS did me proud on them ordered friday they got them in stock for the Tuesday and on my door step wednesday morning.
2 new diff shocks here aswell through the e shop.
Yes my local garage will be removing and refiting the bushes after the tales of woe about them being a pig to do.

jeff turbo
18-10-2023, 10:11 PM
I did have new coil packs spark plugs and 2 engine mounts fitted aswell for that price,
Yes DMGRS did me proud on them ordered friday they got them in stock for the Tuesday and on my door step wednesday morning.
2 new diff shocks here aswell through the e shop.
Yes my local garage will be removing and refiting the bushes after the tales of woe about them being a pig to do.
They were new coil packs on the car when I got it back roadworthy Phil. They came with the car so were they faulty ?

phil260
18-10-2023, 11:17 PM
They were new coil packs on the car when I got it back roadworthy Phil. They came with the car so were they faulty ?

Yes it developed a missfire and wouldnt fire up when hot.

jeff turbo
20-10-2023, 11:13 AM
Yes it developed a missfire and wouldnt fire up when hot.
Blimey they didn't last long

phil260
20-10-2023, 04:48 PM
Blimey they didn't last long

Only done a couple of thousand miles since having the car, Replaced them with motorcraft ones so will see how it goes.

David
20-10-2023, 05:10 PM
Only done a couple of thousand miles since having the car, Replaced them with Motorcraft ones so will see how it goes.
My original MGR (=Motorcraft) lasted over 200k miles after Longbridge first fitted them in 2005, before the first and only failure. On that basis you should be OK for a while!
If you don't mind me asking, what did you end up paying for genuine Motorcraft ones, and where did you get them?

David

SCP440
20-10-2023, 07:50 PM
My original MGR (=Motorcraft) lasted over 200k miles after Longbridge first fitted them in 2005, before the first and only failure. On that basis you should be OK for a while!
If you don't mind me asking, what did you end up paying for genuine Motorcraft ones, and where did you get them?

David
You were lucky David, the general consensus is they usually last about a third of that mileage, I had one fail at 62k, the MSD's are a big improvement in my opinion.
Steve

David
21-10-2023, 12:36 PM
The improvement when I fitted the MSDs was vast, but that clearly came in part from very 'aged' COPs at 200k, and the fact that I changed all the injectors for new at the same time. I'm sure that when COPs get old, they fade off gradually, so you wouldn't notice. Only when 1 fails that you think about it.

I'm having to replace one of my MSDs too now, not through failure as such, but because the long spring inside the COP's pencil-boot which connects to the sparkplug was almost rusted away as a result of coolant leaking into the plug-well from an intake gasket leak at #8. Caused I am certain by a garage not re-torquing down when warm as required (and asked). The intake bolt behind #8 is difficult to get to for torquing down without burning your hands on the EGR gubbins when hot. An expensive failure all round, but you try proving it! Only when I started getting misfires did I remove the COP and saw what had been going on. Gooze were happy to oblige, at Euro 63 each for singletons. Ouch.

David

phil260
21-10-2023, 09:14 PM
My original MGR (=Motorcraft) lasted over 200k miles after Longbridge first fitted them in 2005, before the first and only failure. On that basis you should be OK for a while!
If you don't mind me asking, what did you end up paying for genuine Motorcraft ones, and where did you get them?

David


24pounds per pack, they was supplied by the garage doing the work