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torque2me
08-06-2018, 08:01 AM
Hi groupies,
Recently had a e-mail from x-part informing me that part TYG000250 can no longer be sourced from the original supplier which went out of business.
Why they can't piggy back onto the JLR bolt supplier I don't know but I should think lack of will due to the low volumes involved.
This part is essential for prop-shaft and drive-shaft.
Anyone got any leads on a substitute? The difficulty is the pitch 2 spec.
Kev
What's the full spec of the bolt?
Head, thread profile, length and thread pitch.
Nich.
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torque2me
08-06-2018, 08:47 AM
What's the full spec of the bolt?
Head, thread profile, length and thread pitch.
Nich.
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Nich, as far as I can tell it is a Torx HT 12,9 bolt at M10x2x50mm
e-mail contents:-
Our Purchasing Team have chased their supplier again and confirmed that they are not able to supply TYG000250. Unfortunately the original supplier went out of business.
Our records show that the bolt had an adhesive 'patch' on it and that it wasGrade 12.9, there is also what I understand to be a 'standard' reference no. associated with it: SS110507P. I hope that helps you locate some supplies or get the manufactured.
All my searches to date have not found anything.
Kev
So looking for Torx Head M10 x 50 x 2.0 High Tensile 12.9 grade bolt.
Reference SS110507P.
2mm pitch is incredibly coarse for a machine screw, it would normally be between 1.25 and 1.5 mm.
Will keep looking.
Nich.
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SCP440
08-06-2018, 12:24 PM
It is the 2mm Pitch that will be the problem.
I have just spoken to my supplier of such odd ball items and he reckons that he reckons he has not seen an M10 with a 2mm pitch with a Torx head. We might have a chance with an Allen key head or normal hex head.
Steve
Can you find out from X Part who the original suppliers were? If the 2mm pitch is accurate then I must admit I have never seen a thread that coarse. If we knew who the original suppliers were then we might be able to source alternatives.
Nich.
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Les4048
08-06-2018, 03:39 PM
There’s a company I use through work and they don’t list M10 with a 2 pitch, you need to move to M14 & M16 to get a 2 pitch
I have a TYG000250 in front of me. It's M10 x 1.5 x 50mm with a threaded portion of 40mm and a full diameter of 7mm. The flanged bolt head suits an E12 socket.
Unfortunately a DIN 912 socket head capscrew M10 x 50 12.9 has a threaded portion of 32mm. You can buy these quite readily. You'd have to get an M10 x 1.5 (standard M10 pitch) die to extend the thread if you wanted to replicate the original.
Regards
Andrew
I have a TYG000250 in front of me. It's M10 x 1.5 x 50mm with a threaded portion of 40mm and a full diameter of 7mm. The flanged bolt head suits an E12 socket.
Unfortunately a DIN 912 socket head capscrew M10 x 50 12.9 has a threaded portion of 32mm. You can buy these quite readily. You'd have to get an M10 x 1.5 (standard M10 pitch) die to extend the thread if you wanted to replicate the original.
Regards
Andrew
Can you post a photo Andrew? Could possibly get a longer bolt and cut down to length?
Or
Finish
Self Colour
Fully Threaded
Yes
General Tolerances
+/- 0.13mm
Head Diameter (D)
16mm
Head Length (H)
10mm
Hexagon A/F (J)
8mm
Hexagon Depth (P)
5mm
Length (L)
50mm
Manufacturing Standard
DIN 912
Material
12.9 Hardened Steel
Material Specification
12.9 Hardened Steel
Screw Thread Pitch
1.5mm
Thread Length (Max)
50mm
Thread Size (T)
M10 (10mm)
10196 10197
Nich.
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SCP440
08-06-2018, 09:01 PM
Is a fully threaded version not available?
Steve
Too late Steve, fully threaded available.
:):):)
Nich.
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torque2me
11-06-2018, 09:22 PM
I have a TYG000250 in front of me. It's M10 x 1.5 x 50mm with a threaded portion of 40mm and a full diameter of 7mm. The flanged bolt head suits an E12 socket.
Unfortunately a DIN 912 socket head capscrew M10 x 50 12.9 has a threaded portion of 32mm. You can buy these quite readily. You'd have to get an M10 x 1.5 (standard M10 pitch) die to extend the thread if you wanted to replicate the original.
Regards
Andrew
AAAhh so! Another bit of wrong information to send me down a path with no hope. I didn't dare take out another bolt from my car to check the spec and so relied on the forum which had a post in another thread stating it was pitch 2. Most bolts in the automotive trade are 1.5 for drive-line (BMW, JLR, Vauxhall). I will now search for a 1.5 x 50mm.
Thanks for that Andrew, the information is more reassuring.
Kev
torque2me
11-06-2018, 09:24 PM
There’s a company I use through work and they don’t list M10 with a 2 pitch, you need to move to M14 & M16 to get a 2 pitch
Yeah, everyone and everyone's contact or granny over the last 8 months said pitch 2 at M10 would be a rarity.
Thanks for the confirmation Les.
Kev
.................. I will now search for a 1.5 x 50mm......
Kev
Could try here Kev..........as I said earlier!
https://www.accu.co.uk/en/cap-head-screws/386645-SSCF-M10-50-12-9
Nich.
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Pictures are here: https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=11285&title=zyg0000250&cat=502 (https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=11285&title=zyg0000250&cat=502)
The bolt is per my earlier post in this thread.
I found the application of heat to be the best way of removing these bolts. The thread-locking material makes them very tight to undo otherwise. The difference heat makes is unbelievable. May I suggest that if you use heat to get the bolts out, they should be perfectly capable of being re-used with a suitable threadlocking compound applied, such as Loctite 270.
Andrew
torque2me
29-06-2018, 11:15 AM
Pictures are here: https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=11285&title=zyg0000250&cat=502 (https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=11285&title=zyg0000250&cat=502)
The bolt is per my earlier post in this thread.
I found the application of heat to be the best way of removing these bolts. The thread-locking material makes them very tight to undo otherwise. The difference heat makes is unbelievable. May I suggest that if you use heat to get the bolts out, they should be perfectly capable of being re-used with a suitable threadlocking compound applied, such as Loctite 270.
Andrew
A bit more mystery info Andrew. Vehicle in at Austin's for 60k service and EML.
Nick reckons that MGR may have been about to update part numbers when they went bust. TYG000260 is probably the same bolt. However, TYG000260 is 1.25 pitch.
One wouldn't have thought that a simple bolt would cause such grief!
Kev
p.s.
Is the Febig box pic relative
Kev,
I don't understand "Is the Febig box pic relative".
As for TYG000260, this bolt is completely different from TYG000250.
TYG000250: M10 x 1.5 x 50mm with a threaded portion of 40mm and a full shank diameter over a length of 7mm. The flanged bolt head suits an E12 socket.
TYG000260: M10 x 1.25 x 60mm with a threaded portion of 28mm and a full shank diameter over a length of 30mm. The flanged bolt head suits an E12 socket.
They aren't the "same bolt" at all.
Andrew
torque2me
02-07-2018, 07:36 AM
Kev,
I don't understand "Is the Febig box pic relative".
As for TYG000260, this bolt is completely different from TYG000250.
TYG000250: M10 x 1.5 x 50mm with a threaded portion of 40mm and a full shank diameter over a length of 7mm. The flanged bolt head suits an E12 socket.
TYG000260: M10 x 1.25 x 60mm with a threaded portion of 28mm and a full shank diameter over a length of 30mm. The flanged bolt head suits an E12 socket.
They aren't the "same bolt" at all.
Andrew
Spot on Andy, I was mis-reading my notes. 60mm for the TYG000260.
Kev
p.s.
I only mentioned Febig as it is
in the pic gallery indexed to the
URL you gave.
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