V88 mfs owner on here??

[cranepete]

Is the owner of the blue zt 260 on here thats currently for sale on ebay? Id like your phone number if possible. Cheers P

[mh007]

Nice car, albeit poverty spec, nice colour (Trophy Blue I'd say) & nice mileage.

At £6201.00 with just under 2 days left to go & reserve not met, it'll be interesting to see if it actually sells.

Have you tried to contact the seller via the 'ask a question' option?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-MGZT-260-4-6-litre-V8-modern-classic-investment-/152347667326?hash=item2378a0eb7e:g:y4IAAOSw3xJXoc0 9

A colourful MOT history - check here:

https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

[cranepete]

Contacted seller. Sounds a very nice guy but a few things for me didnt quite add up. Im going on sat to look at a black 260 that needs a little tlc but has some nice mods already done to it.

[SCP440]

A colourful MOT history - check here:

https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

Agreed but no worse than a lot of vehicles, I have seen such reports and when I have been to look at the car it was imaculate. Some Testers these days seem to be a bit over the top with there reports but I suppose they do it to protect them selves.

I wonder what the reserve is? I know these cars are rare but there perceived value seems to be getting higher.

[Jez Marsh]

Yes! Yes! Yes!

[cranepete]

As a mechanic i have one job i really really really hate and refuse to do and thats brake pipes!! The mot history states that it was starting to suffer from corroded brake pipes BUT this years mot stated it has been so heavily undersealed that it was difficult to asses. Spoke to the owner and he said to his knowlage the pipes have not been replaced. Thats me out. It may be trivial but just the way i am. Just incase you think im a bad car mechanic i fix cranes that have rubber not copper brake pipes that i dont mind doing!

[6KH]

I've replaced the rear brake pipes on mine and I'd say it was much, much easier than doing the same job on a Rover 45. They thoughtfully provided joints on the 260, in both pipes, just below the centre console. Makes replacing the rear pipes which are (in my opinion) the ones which corrode, a doddle. The one on the offside cannot follow exactly the same route as the original unless you remove the fuel tank, because there is an infuriatingly-inaccessible clip up there above the tank, but I've got mine close enough and secure. I put new hoses on at the same time.

Andrew

[T16]

Seller is in dreamland setting a reserve that high on a poverty spec car.
The idea of a 260 with no Xenons is literally criminal.

I still think I have the best reg plate btw.....:p :p

V260 MG !!!

[SCP440]

Maybe he is but it they are not making any more of them. It will be interesting to see how high it goes in the usual last few seconds as normally happens on the bay of plenty.

It was not that long ago you could buy a very nice big engine Capri with low miles for a couple of months wages but now that same car will be a years wages for a lot of people.

As far as the Xenons go they can be retro fitted.

[David]

Seller is in dreamland setting a reserve that high on a poverty spec car.
The idea of a 260 with no Xenons is literally criminal.

I still think I have the best reg plate btw.....:p :p

V260 MG !!! Well, more power to his elbow! Prices do appear to be going up. Whether its a trend or the start of a 'south-sea-bubble' only time will tell. Suites me since I've got one already, albeit an even rarer(!) LHD R75V8. Not so good for those looking to find one.

SE/none SE? Majority of the differences can be retro-fitted, at a price, if you want to and think it worthwhile, including Xenons.

It certainly will be interesting to see what it goes for in the end, if we can ever find out!. 'Supply and demand', and there ain't more supply expected :(

David

[cranepete]

The search is really doing my head in!! Iv had a few pm's from a couple of people for cars around the 10k region which makes me think i may as well put a little more into the kitty and put the vxr8 into the mix. Im in no rush but when my wife was in uni we had no money and there always seemed to be a few well priced cars for sale, no shes in work and im able to buy peolple are holding on to there v8 beasts. Ah well. Keep looking. I will have a v8. It MUST happen.

[cranepete]

Seller is in dreamland setting a reserve that high on a poverty spec car.
The idea of a 260 with no Xenons is literally criminal.

I still think I have the best reg plate btw.....:p :p

V260 MG !!!


spoke to the owner he wants £7500. The car is completely original. Not even the heating pipes have been changed.

[David]

... Not even the heating pipes have been changed.
... that's a pity :D

David

[David]

spoke to the owner he wants £7500. The car is completely original ...
Isn't that an OK deal in the current market place for an original car with that mileage ??????????

David

[SCP440]

I don't think £7500 is that bad for a low mileage example. Shame about the non SE spec. At least it wont have traction control.

I know when I was looking for my ZTT 260 I looked at several and they were either crazy money or frankly only a few miles off a lot of money needing to be spent. One black one I looked at was well past its best, a very dubious MOT history with an odd jump down in miles on its second MOT and was an insurance write off. The owner wanted £10k and it sold the day after I looked at it. I missed a lovely Red one, less that 20k miles and the buyer bought it on the phone without even looking at it apparently.

Steve

[David]

... the buyer bought it on the phone without even looking at it apparently.


Like I did with 'Olive'. At 3.5k pounds, I thought I couldn't go wrong. Cash transfer within 5 minutes of the posting on the Internet!
She's got a huge mileage under the belt, but looks and drives like new. 1k on 4 shocks + springs, A/C pump and alternator and nothing more needs doing.

I bought her to tinker on in my retirement, but I just have to drive her instead for a hobby :)

So, I NEVER regretted it, but in the general sense its not perhaps a wise tactic!

David

[cranepete]

I got burned with the last car i bought a mercedes ml the transmission failed a few days after i bought it, it had been bodged just to last. Luckily i was able to remove and rebuild myself and it only cost me a few hundred in parts but if it was someone who is not good with spanners they would be looking at a very big repair bill. Im super cautious now. I could not sell a car to someone knowing there is a problem and lie to people. I wouldnt sleep at night. If i look at the past mot ect and what the seller says dont add up il walk away. At the same time if i spoke to a seller and they said its very good but the diff whines when warm that would not bother me in the slightest. Id be quite happy to pull the diff and rebuild it. Just hate devious lying scammers trying to palm off there rubbish for good money.

[David]

Just hate devious lying scammers trying to palm off there rubbish for good money.
Try sell me a car with stone-chips and a dirty engine and I would be more interested, if you know what I mean.

David

[cranepete]

Totally, rather have somthing thats been used than parked up for months. There are honest people out there i dont want to turn into one of my friends whos a copper who wouldnt belive you if you told him tomorrow was sunday!

[cranepete]

Isn't that an OK deal in the current market place for an original car with that mileage ??????????

David
I think your right but if you read the mot history it may need a new subframe ect in the near future. By the sounds of it its been plasterd with wax oil and any problems will be hidden untill i get it home and put it on my 2 poster. Ip pay more than the 7.5k for the right car if i have to. I just dont want to buy a car and end up spending £££ getting it right when i know eventually someone maybe off this forum will put there well cared for v8 baby up for sale. Maybe im being to picky.

[David]

See my PM, Pete.

[cranepete]

See my PM, Pete.
Thank you, replied

[T16]

Pete calm yourself right down and relax! I waited 2.5 years for my one, and seeing I was dead set on Solar Red (NOT RIO, sorry Rio guys!) and an SE, I think I was limited to four cars ever made. Ended up seeing 3 out of four of the red ones, and picked the best :) The 4th I wasnt interested in, as it had been modded too much.

Sit tight, the moment will come!

[Jez Marsh]

7500 not too bad. It ain't going down as Spring approaches!

[6KH]

I still think I have the best reg plate btw.....:p :p

V260 MG !!!

Your registration mark is V26 OMG and not otherwise.

Andrew

[David]

Your registration mark is V26 OMG and not otherwise.

Andrew
I like T16's take on it !

David

[Les4048]

The advert states "non SE, even rarer" surly not as nearly every picture I see is of non SE plus I remember reading they were expensive enough before you added any extras. Right or wrong ?

[David]

The advert states "non SE, even rarer" surly not as nearly every picture I see is of non SE plus I remember reading they were expensive enough before you added any extras. Right or wrong ?
Finding a good one, sorry any one, is difficult enough. I doubt that SE/Non-SE is all that important as far as value/desirability is concerned, so-say 'rarity' notwithstanding; service-history, providence and condition is everything really (don't say mileage, my 'Olive' is paranoid about that!)

Would you buy a "rare" non-SE with zero service history over an SE with all the paperwork? I wouldn't.

Anyway, personally I think the more SE bits you've got the better, as an SE or added later.

David

[T16]

Your registration mark is V26 OMG and not otherwise.

Andrew


ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ There is always one isnt there...

[T16]

Non SE vs SE discussion is pointless, as its horses for courses... You have some that prefer one and a few that prefer the other.

Personally, the idea of manual window winders on a "flagship" 4 door saloon RWD V8 model, is nothing short of utterly embarassing.

[Jez Marsh]

Please, not in front of the children! ��

[Les4048]

Non SE vs SE discussion is pointless, as its horses for courses... You have some that prefer one and a few that prefer the other.

Personally, the idea of manual window winders on a "flagship" 4 door saloon RWD V8 model, is nothing short of utterly embarassing.
My question wasn't to incite a discussion on the merits of SE or non SE but to quantify the statement that the non SE is a scarcer model which is a statement I doubt is true due to my point of the cars being expensive enough when new therefore making the SE the scarcer model. Still not had a definitive answer

[SCP440]

Would you buy a "rare" non-SE with zero service history over an SE with all the paperwork? I wouldn't.



David

I have to say as much as a service history is good to have what if like me the previous owner has done all his or her own work? Some garages do the minimum needed and in fact some do nothing but put a stamp in the book, at least by doing it myself I can use the best products and keep an eye on stuff.

When I was looking for my 260 one I looked at had all the paperwork and even a couple of receipts for bulbs being replaced but the car was very ragged. Tatty paint, worn seats, dirty carpets and even a small dent in the sill. Apparently it had only done 30k miles but looked like it had done 4 times that.

Steve

[Burwell Mike]

My question wasn't to incite a discussion on the merits of SE or non SE but to quantify the statement that the non SE is a scarcer model which is a statement I doubt is true due to my point of the cars being expensive enough when new therefore making the SE the scarcer model. Still not had a definitive answer

Build data from mg-rover.info is as follows:

ZT 260SE 384
ZT 260 180

ZTT 260SE 114
ZTT 260 37

so it does look like non SE's are the rarer model by some margin. The same site shows that my ZTT is the only non SE 260 in trophy blue, so I am now feeling rather exclusive even if rear passengers need some exercise on the window winder to get some fresh air in the back. (Still have electric windows in front so I am alright :)).

When I bought mine a few years ago condition, documented service history and mileage were the higher priorities over spec, although at the time I did not appreciate how few basic spec ZTT 260's there were.

Mike

[Nich]

The problem with all this data is that you cannot rely on it's accuracy. According to the data from mg-rover.info there are only 715 MG ZT and ZTT, does that mean that there are 169 R 75 V8's? I know how frustrating it is having debates about whether SE's are rarer than non SE's but the accurate, definitive figures are not available. We know, for example that there are two cars with 007 as the last three digits of the VIN, we also know of another example of this duplication. I think the only thing we can be certain of is that no-one has accurate data.

Nich.

[Burwell Mike]

Nich,

Totally agree that there are likely to be some discrepancies in the data. However when Les asked the question about which is scarcer I was also curious. Even allowing for discrepancies I think the data must be sufficient to show that SE's were the far more popular choice which answers the original question. This is also borne out by the cars that come up for sale now. For what it is worth the same site shows 165 Rover V8's.

Not that I intend to sell my basic spec car (very happy with it) , it is useful to have a rough idea of the number of similar cars out there if I ever do need to put it on the market.

Mike

[Nich]

Totally agree Mike.

Nich.

[David]

Totally agree Mike.

Nich.
At least 'scoubix' hasn't got that conundrum, owning the only (?) LHD ZT260 auto, :D

David

[David]

I'd be interested to know the LHD stats, RV8 and ZT260 and saloon/tourer. Theoretically if "our" access to database data is to the level of the whole VIN, the digit-nine should be "N" or higher for left hookers making that breakdown relatively easy (should be N or W). Do we have access to that, or only the wordy extraction if you check your own VIN? My job used to be data analysis and data mining if anyone could loan me the DB!

If you're talking about scarcity, try finding a lefty for sale!

David