#073

[Richb]

Hi folks,

Ive been looking at getting a 260 for some time and I'm interested in buying #073. I've searched on this forum and saw it was briefly mentioned for sale about 3 years ago, but does anyone else have any information about this car and what sort of life it has had?

cheers,
Rich

[Nich]

Hi folks,

Ive been looking at getting a 260 for some time and I'm interested in buying #073. I've searched on this forum and saw it was briefly mentioned for sale about 3 years ago.................

cheers,
Rich

Don't know where you got that info from Richard, I do know the car is based on the south coast.

Nich.

[Richb]

Yep, that's the one on the south coast. I believe it is #073 and was mentioned in a thread on here from Jan 2012, posts 16-17....
https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/f...r-modification (https://www.two-sixties.co.uk/mgoc260/html/f0rum/showthread.php?10383-Relatively-high-mileage-260-supercharger-modification)

The old link to preloved.co.uk is no longer active so can't confirm though. I know it's a 53 plate SE model in monogram garnet red.

ive had some email discussion with the current owner and seen a few photos, but it would be nice to know some history of the car before I travel to see it, if anyone knows anything?

Rich

[Nich]

The present owner is a member on here.

No history (apart from the reference to the for sale advert you have already found) known about #073.

Nich.

[AndyG]

Rich

WELCOME :D

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How did you hear about our forum?

[Richb]

How did you hear about our forum?

I'm on the 75andZT owners club forum having owned a couple of ZT's over the past 5 or 6 years. I have a look in he V8 section now and again and saw the link in there.

Rich

[AndyG]

I'm on the 75andZT owners club forum having owned a couple of ZT's over the past 5 or 6 years. I have a look in he V8 section now and again and saw the link in there.
Rich

Good luck (and for the New Year)

I see you're in Staffordshire ?

[Richb]

I'm just outside Stafford. I regularly see a nice Poseidon 260 around the Stafford Hospital area and it makes me want one every time I see/hear it!

Rich

[Herman]

Well, just to let you know that Rich is on his way home from Swindon with 2 new coil-packs, bonnet release temp repair and all seems well.

Won't be long before he'll be green and enjoy the full wealth of this forum :)

[colintf]

Well, just to let you know that Rich is on his way home from Swindon with 2 new coil-packs, bonnet release temp repair and all seems well.

Won't be long before he'll be green and enjoy the full wealth of this forum :)

Nice one :thumb

[Richb]

Well, just to let you know that Rich is on his way home from Swindon with 2 new coil-packs, bonnet release temp repair and all seems well.

Won't be long before he'll be green and enjoy the full wealth of this forum :)

Thanks for all your help last night Herman (there's a bottle on its way to you 😊), the last half of the journey was a lot smoother as a V8 rather than a V6! Although my check engine light is permanently on now so hope I haven't done anything serious driving it with the misfire.

The car is locked up in the garage now and I need to address the issues it has (main ones are speedo not working and abs light on since previous owner had a new offside front wheel bearing fitted, and a BCU error causing the electric windows to be swapped and central locking not to work. I'll start a new thread when I get the chance and post up some pics.

Cheers,
Rich
#073 260SE Monogram Garnet Red

[Nich]

Welcome along to ownership Rich, get your questionairre back to Tim and get full membership. Lots of reading to do! :)

Nich.

[Herman]

Thanks for all your help last night Herman (there's a bottle on its way to you ��), the last half of the journey was a lot smoother as a V8 rather than a V6! Although my check engine light is permanently on now so hope I haven't done anything serious driving it with the misfire.

The car is locked up in the garage now and I need to address the issues it has (main ones are speedo not working and abs light on since previous owner had a new offside front wheel bearing fitted, and a BCU error causing the electric windows to be swapped and central locking not to work. I'll start a new thread when I get the chance and post up some pics.

Cheers,
Rich
#073 260SE Monogram Garnet Red

It's a shame I couldn't get the OBD to work yesterday, but I think the engine light came on because of pulling the coil-packs to find the faulty ones.
An than again after both were fitted to make sure the drop in tone was the same every time.

In that case the light should go out after a few normal drives.
As for the ABS, I believe the speed is driven from the N/S sensor so if the bearing is installed correctly it might be the sensor itself.
It could be they installed the bearing the wrong way around and the sensor is not seeing the reluctor.

With regards to the BCU, try a battery reset (battery disconnect for 30 mins or so). This should also clear the engine light btw if no fault present.


Good luck

PS. It just dawned on me that you're only 30mls away from Nick (Austin Garages). Might be worth asking him to give it a once over

[Richb]

I managed to get 1/2 hour looking at the 260 this morning. I made up an ABS extension lead using a spare connector and a length of twin cable. First I connected the 260 loom onto a known good sensor on my ZTT and it made no difference, suggesting that its the loom side in that's the issue. Just to double check I swapped the extension over and connected my ZTT loom to the OSF sensor on the 260 and the ZTT ABS light went out as expected suggesting it passed the start up test and confirmed the sensor is not the immediate issue.

So what should I check next? Replacement ABS ECU? Are they the same as other models? I know someone has played with the wiring before as I can see where the loom has been spliced into where it connects into the ABS hydraulic unit. Does anyone have a schematic of the ABS system?

Cheers,
Rich

[Herman]

I managed to get 1/2 hour looking at the 260 this morning. I made up an ABS extension lead using a spare connector and a length of twin cable. First I connected the 260 loom onto a known good sensor on my ZTT and it made no difference, suggesting that its the loom side in that's the issue. Just to double check I swapped the extension over and connected my ZTT loom to the OSF sensor on the 260 and the ZTT ABS light went out as expected suggesting it passed the start up test and confirmed the sensor is not the immediate issue.

So what should I check next? Replacement ABS ECU? Are they the same as other models? I know someone has played with the wiring before as I can see where the loom has been spliced into where it connects into the ABS hydraulic unit. Does anyone have a schematic of the ABS system?

Cheers,
Rich

Here you go:-
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[WNJ516]

I think I would try and use your extension loom to verify from the ABS plug unit to the sensor is good before condemning the abs control unit, disconnect the ztt good sensor and from ztt main plug use your loom to attach to the faulty circuit on the zt plug, hope all this makes sense, at least you know which way to go or what is faulty.

[Richb]

Here you go:-

Thanks Herman. Does that mean the abs ecu is part of the modulator rather than a separate ecu? Suppose that would mean removing the whole modulator and associated brake pipes to get it repaired or replaced?

Cheers,
Rich.

[Richb]

I think I would try and use your extension loom to verify from the ABS plug unit to the sensor is good before condemning the abs control unit, disconnect the ztt good sensor and from ztt main plug use your loom to attach to the faulty circuit on the zt plug, hope all this makes sense, at least you know which way to go or what is faulty.

I think I tried that Nigel, I plugged the 260 OSF sensor into my ZTT main loom and the abs light went out after a second or two. I couldn't onviously drive it anywhere but the fact the light went out means it passed the start up test with the 260 sensor plugged in.

Cheers,
Rich.

[Herman]

Thanks Herman. Does that mean the abs ecu is part of the modulator rather than a separate ecu? Suppose that would mean removing the whole modulator and associated brake pipes to get it repaired or replaced?

Cheers,
Rich.

ECU can be separated from the unit. Not sure if the can be done in situ though. Here's a pic of a BMW unit.

6996

[stevenw]

It can be done in situ,it's not that difficult as long as nothing's rusty or seized.

I think it took me about 15 to 20 mins.

I used a flexible screwdriver with a Torx bit and had to loosen the power steering fluid reservoir and fusebox to gain access to the 6 bolts if I remember correctly.

I tested to see if it was likely to be the ECU by plugging in a loose known good ECU when the light was on .

It took about a minute to do and the light went off,but came back on when the original ECU was plugged back in.

[Richb]

Thanks for the info guys. I'll try and get mine out and have a look.

Cheers,
Rich

[Richb]

So I did a bit more digging. First I checked the loom as it had been butchered in the past. It seems 6 wires had been cut into, the two wires that go to OSF sensor, the two wires that go to the NSF sensor and the two wires that go to the instrument cluster. The good news is the wires to the sensors buzzed out correctly and I assume the wires to the instrument cluster were some half-ar##d attempt to put the light out!

So since the sensor wiring checked out, I looked at the modulator. I could see signs of tampering on that too, with "void" stickers on it where the security seal had been removed. On taking it out, I also found that it was only held in with 5 of the 6 torx screws!

So here are some pics of the removed module. Note that the part number is 0 265 900 047 (tel:0 265 900 047) which differs from the quoted part number in other threads but I've seen someone mention this one was fitted to their 260 too.

So, the question is should I have a dig inside? Or would that make potential repairers less likely to touch it?

Rich

[Richb]

Oh well, too late now I guess. There certainly looks like signs of attempted repairs in the past. Hope this one is salvageable. It also looks like a thin black jumper wire was stuck in the hot glue when they sealed the top back on and it pulled off with the top, so hopefully a repairer will know where that goes!