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gaz320
01-02-2013, 11:08 AM
I have decided that the time has come to sell my beloved ZT 320 :(
I am letting the members know first to see if anyone is interested before I advertise it nationally. Most of you will know the modifications that I have done to it but feel free to contact me if you want to know any details.
I feel that just doing a few hundred miles per year is a waste of a beautiful car which needs to be out on the open road roaring at the other cars!

ZT 260 SE Root Supercharger 320 bhp
54 plate
Alcantara interior
20 inch wheels
Brembo big brake conversion
X Powers

26000 miles

£9000 ono

I would rather it went to a 260 member so would be willing to be flexible on price.

Gaz320

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colintf
01-02-2013, 11:58 AM
Gaz's car is like a showcar - you could eat your dinner off the underneath or the engine bay.
Good luck with the sale Gary :thumb

Grahamp
17-02-2013, 11:55 PM
Just to let you know this car is now sold and very nice it is too

colintf
18-02-2013, 06:55 AM
We're you at Stoneleigh yesterday?? :cool:

slydog
18-02-2013, 07:11 AM
Nice one mate hope your gonna be at brooklands with it in april .

Grahamp
18-02-2013, 09:45 PM
Yes I was at stoneleigh was bit disappointed the sheds weren't open. Have to see about brook lands closer to the date, see what the wether's like�� Car ran very well, very pleased. Exhausts were very noisy think I will have to swop the for quieter ones, has any one got any?

X5POWER
18-02-2013, 10:10 PM
I have spoken to my friend and i am sorry but he has sold his after market pipes, I will keep trying for you
Steve (MG Lifestyle)

colintf
18-02-2013, 10:13 PM
Yes I was at stoneleigh was bit disappointed the sheds weren't open. Have to see about brook lands closer to the date, see what the wether's like�� Car ran very well, very pleased. Exhausts were very noisy think I will have to swop the for quieter ones, has any one got any?

There are quieter ones out there like Zero's and I am sure someone will buy the ones on there already :thumb

tonybubble
18-02-2013, 10:15 PM
Yes I was at stoneleigh was bit disappointed the sheds weren't open. Have to see about brook lands closer to the date, see what the wether's like�� Car ran very well, very pleased. Exhausts were very noisy think I will have to swop the for quieter ones, has any one got any?

I have a standard pair and will happily swap, Graham. :D

colintf
18-02-2013, 10:21 PM
I have a standard pair and will happily swap, Graham. :D

That's a Cheeky offer Tony :cool:

Grahamp
18-02-2013, 10:32 PM
Im sure you would! �� I have spoken to zero and they sound quite good I want something with a nice noise with out the droning in the cabin, Zero reckon that the X Power's could be worth £450/ £500, ? these have done 24000 mls and highly polished.

AndyG
18-02-2013, 10:43 PM
............. Have to see about brook lands closer to the date, see what the wether's like..............

We have been at Brooklands in the snow, It is the place to be.

Grahamp
18-02-2013, 10:53 PM
Yes but Gary R hasn't driven in the rain an it will be a shame to run all his hard work!

zt954
18-02-2013, 11:07 PM
Hi Graham, I am after some xpowers (if the price is right) let me know if you want to sell

James C
19-02-2013, 10:42 AM
We have been at Brooklands in the snow, It is the place to be.

That was a mad year, snowed like mad on the way there, snowploughs out and everything, on the way home you wouldn't have known there was any snow, it had all gone!

pessling
19-02-2013, 02:26 PM
Not the first time its snowed at brooklands, Even Tim managed to get there when it snows. and gaz's car did see rain when i organised the coventry meet.

ksilver
20-02-2013, 07:38 AM
Yes I was at stoneleigh was bit disappointed the sheds weren't open. Have to see about brook lands closer to the date, see what the wether's like�� Car ran very well, very pleased. Exhausts were very noisy think I will have to swop the for quieter ones, has any one got any?

Are the X-powers sleeved?

If they are you could "un-sleeve" them to reduce the noise.

colintf
20-02-2013, 07:42 AM
Are the X-powers sleeved?

If they are you could "un-sleeve" them to reduce the noise.

I have pm'd the same suggestion to Graham :thumb

Grahamp
20-02-2013, 10:19 AM
Yes they are going to remove sleves weekend and try them!
Thanks

ksilver
20-02-2013, 10:27 AM
Yes they are going to remove sleves weekend and try them!
Thanks

When I bought 211 the X-Powers were sleeved and personally I found the noise unbearable. I got Brian to remove the sleeves and it's so much nicer now.

Nich
20-02-2013, 10:34 AM
Slightly off topic but it's about time you went GREEN Graham. Have you returned your questionnaire to Tim yet? Whereabouts are you located?

Welcome to ownership.

Nich.

Herman
20-02-2013, 10:38 AM
When I bought 211 the X-Powers were sleeved and personally I found the noise unbearable. I got Brian to remove the sleeves and it's so much nicer now.

I honestly can't see the point of sleeved x-powers. If you don't like the standard, go for Zeros. If they're too quiet, have X-Powers.
If X-powers are not loud enough (for the few grown up hooligans on here) do what ZTpony did and get bespoke Zeros

Why slam a bit of scaffolding in a set of perfectly good exhausts is beyond me :GMC

AndyG
20-02-2013, 02:31 PM
I honestly can't see the point of sleeved x-powers. If you don't like the standard, go for Zeros. If they're too quiet, have X-Powers.
If X-powers are not loud enough (for the few grown up hooligans on here) do what ZTpony did and get bespoke Zeros

Why slam a bit of scaffolding in a set of perfectly good exhausts is beyond me :GMC

We are going back a few years when Zeros were not available..


A bit like a woman wearing High Heels, They can be take off to be sensible? ;)

Grahamp
20-02-2013, 07:46 PM
Hi, I haven't had the questionnaire yet ?? I'm not far from Chester.I have bought a pr of new Rover back boxes I was going to mod the tail pipes and try but I'll try the x powers first, don't want it to quiet but at moment it has a unbearable drone and it takes away the pleasure of driving

Herman
20-02-2013, 07:51 PM
We are going back a few years when Zeros were not available..


A bit like a woman wearing High Heels, They can be take off to be sensible? ;)

Sort of. They look good but are useless for walking. Sleeved may sound good stationary but too loud (for most) driving

AndyG
20-02-2013, 07:53 PM
................ Sleeved may sound good stationary but too loud (for most) driving

Great in the tunnels of Europe :]

Nich
20-02-2013, 08:57 PM
Hi, I haven't had the questionnaire yet ?? I'm not far from Chester.

PM Tim and he will send you one.

Nich.

ksilver
20-02-2013, 09:30 PM
Great in the tunnels of Europe :]

Not if you're deaf when you get there!! :Duh

colintf
20-02-2013, 10:28 PM
Sort of. They look good but are useless for walking. Sleeved may sound good stationary but too loud (for most) driving


after a while, they are just not loud enough.

3300+ miles in 16 days = pure music to the ears :thumb

Herman
20-02-2013, 10:32 PM
after a while, they are just not loud enough.

3300+ miles in 16 days = pure music to the ears :thumb

Hearing loss is a slow but steady process unfortunately.

But again each to their own.....

pessling
22-02-2013, 12:47 PM
Hearing loss is a slow but steady process unfortunately.

But again each to their own.....

What you say?

Grahamp
03-03-2013, 10:24 AM
Hi, finally got tubes out of x powers, what a B of a job fitted them and they sound's really quite nice, only thing is I'm not to sure about oval tail pipes,got to admit I do like the four outlets! May go for a pr of Zero's?.Has any one fitted LPG? Is there any thing I need to look out for? Also has any one fitted water injection to a S/C engine?
Also looking at fitting a new set of spark plugs, is there any that are better suited to this engine?
Lots of questions I know!
Grahamp

Nich
03-03-2013, 10:33 AM
If you send your completed questionnaire back to Tim and become a full member you will be able to find the answers to all of these questions. Come to think of it you will be able to find lots more questions as well.......You need to go GREEN.

:)

Nich.

Herman
03-03-2013, 10:36 AM
Not heard of a S/C on LPG yet, but BernardLPG should be able to answer that one.

With regards to water injection, have a read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_(engines)



In a piston engine, the initial injection of water cools the fuel-air mixture significantly which increases its density and hence the amount of mixture that enters the cylinder. The water (if in small liquid droplets) may absorb heat (and lower the pressure) as the charge is compressed, thus reducing compression work.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_(engines)#cite_note-wilson-1) An additional effect comes later during combustion when the water absorbs large amounts of heat as it vaporizes, reducing peak temperature and resultant NOx formation, and reducing the amount of heat energy absorbed into the cylinder walls. This also converts part of combustion energy from the form of heat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat) to the form of pressure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure). As the water droplets vaporize by absorbing heat, it turns to high pressure steam (water vapor or steam mainly resulted from combustion chemical reaction). The alcohol in the mixture burns, but is also much more resistant to detonation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_knocking) than gasoline (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline). The net result is a higher octane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating) charge that will support very high compression ratios or significant forced induction pressures before onset of detonation.
Fuel economy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_automobiles) can be improved with water injection. Depending on the engine, the effect of water injection, with no other modification, like leaning out the mixture, may be quite significant[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_(engines)#cite_note-wilson-1) or rather limited and in some cases negligible[original research? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research)].
It should be noted that most modern consumer vehicle engines are pre-programmed with specific fuel-to-air ratios and that introducing water without re-programming the car's computer will not have any benefit and in most cases will reduce performance and possibly damage the engine. Most modern fuel systems cannot determine that water in any form has been added and cannot determine a new compression ratio or take advantage of lower cylinder temperatures. In most cases in cars that are pre-programmed, introducing water vapor will cause them to lose power because the water vapor will then take the place of air and fuel that is required to produce power. Only in vehicles in which the owner can take the car to a tuner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_tuning) will any benefit be seen. However, as soon as the water source is depleted the engine will be running rich and power and and fuel economy will be lost again.
Damage can occur to the engine if too much water is injected or if there is a malfunction of the injector itself. Water is not compressible and if too much water makes it into the cylinder prior to detonation (during the compression cycle), the volume of liquid may exceed the engine block's head bolts threshold, causing blown heads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_gasket#Gasket_problems), hydrolock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrolock), or shatterting of the piston connecting rods. This damage is fatal to the engine and typically requires a full rebuild.
Water injection is typically used in aviation and is not intended for use in consumer grade vehicles. When used in consumer grade vehicles it is for the extremely high performance arena (1000 HP+) where vehicles are super- or turbocharged and produce excessive heat. These vehicles are typically driven only in a event or controlled race and require extremely high levels of knowledge to maintain and are only driven for very short distances. In most forms of water injection, water is mixed with a combustible fuel and not injected directly from the tap.
Many product scams exist[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] touting that inserting a tube of misting spray into a intake manifold will increase your mileage gains or horsepower. However, unless the user reprograms the car's ECU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_control_unit), power loss and damage will eventually occur.

colintf
03-03-2013, 10:40 AM
Hi, finally got tubes out of x powers, what a B of a job fitted them and they sound's really quite nice, only thing is I'm not to sure about oval tail pipes,got to admit I do like the four outlets! May go for a pr of Zero's?.Has any one fitted LPG? Is there any thing I need to look out for? Also has any one fitted water injection to a S/C engine?
Also looking at fitting a new set of spark plugs, is there any that are better suited to this engine?
Lots of questions I know!
Grahamp

Well done
Before jumping to zeros just because of the outlet pipes get used to the XPower sound to see if you like it
Then ride in a car with twin outlet pipes on each side zero exhaust and see how the sound compares

I would hate you to spend money just because of the look of the outlet pipes only to find that you are not so happy with the sound afterall

As Nich says Go Green on here :thumb

AndyG
03-03-2013, 01:40 PM
Not heard of a S/C on LPG yet, but BernardLPG should be able to answer that one.

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