Rover 75 V8 - 5.551 pounds and five hours to go

[75SCO]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251176333892?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

[ksilver]

Seems to have a fair bit of interest which is encouraging.

[Herman]

Yes it is, but the reserve is still not met.......

£5,999 ????

[75SCO]

Like your guess, it's been relisted.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251181718360

[jenksman]

Like your guess, it's been relisted.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251181718360
Well you certainly can't be criticised for not trying, but are you not kicking yourself for t urning down a pretty good offer £5651 i believe
It might be rare but it is after all a Rover and a "D" cat one at that
Why not offer to throw in a free flat cap
Good luck
Dave

[deltasierra]

As one of the bidders --- I held out some hope... its a lovely car.... but I have eyes for a ZT V8.... It would be nice to have both, but some sense must prevail...maybe!

[colintf]

Well you certainly can't be criticised for not trying, but are you not kicking yourself for t urning down a pretty good offer £5651 i believe
It might be rare but it is after all a Rover and a "D" cat one at that
Why not offer to throw in a free flat cap
Good luck
Dave

Must admit, it was a good offer and a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush :cool:

[precious metal]

I am suprised that the car even made as much as £5600 as its CAT D status knocks 30-35 % of a proper cars value and also its the less desireable Rover 260 version over the MG 260. so a £7k proper no drama car is worth around £4500 if CAT D

also if it struggled to make £5651 i dont understand the logic of starting a new auction at the last top bidders auction price of £5651. i cant see anyone wanting to bid now as its looks too expensive to start with and its not really an auction now !!

IMO - i would start it at £4000 and see how it runs or list as £5500 classified price with also an "offer" option button

goodluck

[Herman]

I am suprised that the car even made as much as £5600 as its CAT D status knocks 30-35 % of a proper cars value and also its the less desireable Rover 260 version over the MG 260. so a £7k proper no drama car is worth around £4500 if CAT D

also if it struggled to make £5651 i dont understand the logic of starting a new auction at the last top bidders auction price of £5651. i cant see anyone wanting to bid now as its looks too expensive to start with and its not really an auction now !!

IMO - i would start it at £4000 and see how it runs or list as £5500 classified price with also an "offer" option button

goodluck

I always thought that a 75 V8 would be more desireable than the MG ZT 260.
As Cat-D is more of an economical write-off than a technical one, I can't see why it would knock 30% off the price.

A car can be Cat-D because the paint job is a good 3k due to certain colours:confused:

From a trader's point of view certainly a bargaining point at P/X but when put on the forecourt for sale all of a sudden Cat-D is 'a minor accident that doesn't even appear on the V5'

Personally I think the car is worth at least 6K, regardless of the insurance marker.

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[stevenw]

I am suprised that the car even made as much as £5600 as its CAT D status knocks 30-35 % of a proper cars value and also its the less desireable Rover 260 version over the MG 260. so a £7k proper no drama car is worth around £4500 if CAT D

also if it struggled to make £5651 i dont understand the logic of starting a new auction at the last top bidders auction price of £5651. i cant see anyone wanting to bid now as its looks too expensive to start with and its not really an auction now !!

IMO - i would start it at £4000 and see how it runs or list as £5500 classified price with also an "offer" option button


goodluck

I think £5651 is a good offer but would be surprised if CAT D status would knock a third off the value.

If that were so then an equivalent offer on this car would be near £8500 without the previous accident history.

I would have thought the Rover was the more desirable,I wouldn't expect an equivalent MG 260 to make that money,a tourer maybe not a saloon though.

[Les4048]

From a trader's point of view certainly a bargaining point at P/X but when put on the forecourt for sale all of a sudden Cat-D is 'a minor accident that doesn't even appear on the V5'

Very true. I remember I bought a 3 year old Citroen BX TD estate and was tempted to px for the Xantia when it came out. The salesman who sold me the car 6 month earlier went around the car and pointed out some minor defects. I told him that was very strange as he'd not pointed them out when I'd bought the car from him earlier. Result was I walked away and kept the BX for 11 years

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[75SCO]

@jenksman re: the not trying bit. The car has now been advertised in Germany, Holland, France and Sweden. I prefer two in the hand over two in the bush, :-). Thanks for all the comments on here.

[jenksman]

@jenksman re: the not trying bit. The car has now been advertised in Germany, Holland, France and Sweden. I prefer two in the hand over two in the bush, :-). Thanks for all the comments on here.

I think you misunderstood my comment
I said you cannot be criticised for not trying
This means you have tried very hard
Dave

[75SCO]

Ihad got it right the first time, was just not clever enough in replying. Anyway, it's back on again, and apparently Germany seems to be a good market. Let's see.

[precious metal]

RE the CAT D status, i dont get involved in buying or selling CAT reg drama cars, as they are exactly that and as there are so many proper cars out here to buy, why bother. people who buy cat repaired cars generally do so as they cant afford a proper one

however in 15 yrs in the trade i have come across the odd 1 or 2 in PX (sometimes where the owner didnt know ! it was cat reg) and whenever i have traded or sold them at auction they have made around 65-70% or pre accident money. so thats why i said about my thoughts on value. if they were only 10% less you wouldnt bother !!

the only way you can buy or sell one with confidence is to have accident damage photos and report then and there, as the advert states rear bumper and wing damage, but how does anyone know or believe that without evidence or if there was floorpan / roof damage, which is highly likely. just look on ebay and there are lots of private CAT reg adverts saying "mint condition" "as good as new" "repaired to main dealer std", most of them will be sub standard as i have seen many of these cat cars to value in PX and decline most of them as they are normally poor std and have hidden dramas or faults and i would rather walk away from trouble

generally most cars repaired after cat C or D status start off being repaired properly, then repair costs spiral and people cut corners and 90% of cat repaired cars never get finished properly and always have those bodywork / electrical / mechanical issues

this is info from experienced professional bodyshops where they get people coming in for repairs to cat cars not repaired correctly

CAT repaired cars - "CAVEAT EMPTOR"

[Tatra Man]

also if it struggled to make £5651 i dont understand the logic of starting a new auction at the last top bidders auction price of £5651. i cant see anyone wanting to bid now as its looks too expensive to start with and its not really an auction now !!

IMO - i would start it at £4000 and see how it runs or list as £5500 classified price with also an "offer" option button

goodluck

I think you've missed the fact that the guy whose bid shows at £5,651 almost certainly bid more than that. £5,651 shows because it's one bid increment above the next highest bidder's maximum bid.

[Tatra Man]

I always thought that a 75 V8 would be more desireable than the MG ZT 260.

There's a big difference between 'rarer' and 'more desirable'. Yes, the grille is a huge improvement over the normal bland 75 grille and possibly better looking than the Mk.II MG grille but it isn't a patch on the Mk.I MG grille and, personally, I would never go for the automatic gearbox version - which almost all Rovers are and almost no MGs are.

[colintf]

There a couple of mg autos
The autos I think are probably quicker on the move because they don't suffer from the agricultural manual gear change
:cool:

[Herman]

There a couple of mg autos
The autos I think are probably quicker on the move because they don't suffer from the agricultural manual gear change
:cool:

Have a look here http://rover75.bplaced.net/v8.html under 'Performance'

Assuming they use the same box:-

It looks like 0-62 and top speed are not the same as the ZT 260 with the ZT performing slightly better.
Can't find any figures on 'in gear' accellaration but potentially this is where the autobox comes into its own.
I'll see if I can dig some info out or maybe others have it at hand and can post

[tomcat22]

Reserve is 6500 GBP. Also listed in Germany. Price does include delivery to Germany

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251182098877

[stevenw]

There's a big difference between 'rarer' and 'more desirable'. Yes, the grille is a huge improvement over the normal bland 75 grille and possibly better looking than the Mk.II MG grille but it isn't a patch on the Mk.I MG grille and, personally, I would never go for the automatic gearbox version - which almost all Rovers are and almost no MGs are.

When I say that i think the Rover is more desirable than the MG I mean that there are probably more buyers per car available and the sale price is likely to be higher for the Rover than the MG,not that I prefer it or more people in total would prefer it.

I totally agree with you about grills and manual gearbox,and your car is the very one I wanted when I first started looking at 260s but couldn't justify buying it recently as it would be cheaper for me to get my Tourer resprayed Trophy Blue and put a MK1 front and back end put on.

[colintf]

Have a look here http://rover75.bplaced.net/v8.html under 'Performance'

Assuming they use the same box:-

It looks like 0-62 and top speed are not the same as the ZT 260 with the ZT performing slightly better.
Can't find any figures on 'in gear' accellaration but potentially this is where the autobox comes into its own.
I'll see if I can dig some info out or maybe others have it at hand and can post

Thanks Herman, not seen that before - do we have it in the Libruary? :cool:

[Herman]

Thanks Herman, not seen that before - do we have it in the Libruary? :cool:

As a thread in the link pot now.

[deltasierra]

Hi
Just thought I would say that I was pleased to get a chance to drive this car late last week. I was passing nearby on business so a real stroke of luck. It certainly looks in good condition with some very minor wear and tear, and the present owner certainly likes his special cars and is well used to driving V8s of all sorts, especially the Ford V8 coupled to the autobox as used in the R75 V8. Hence he wanted this, and his family drives it too.

I had a good look at the body, under the wheel arch and at the bare metal area inside the boot area and wheel arch around the previous repair. While obviously not a mechanic's inspection, it was free from any sign of damage or even repair except a slightly different rear light colour shade due to its youth. The previous older lady owner apprently fitted cheapo Chineses tyres and went into a slow skid in the wet and banged the rear wing area.

I was allowed to give the car a good run around on the Scottish lowland back roads. The car drove really well, and I gave it a good braking, steering, accel, and decel tests. It was my 1st time in in an R75 V8 and the auto box was excellent whether from a gentle move off or rapid overtakes. In fact the push down overtake was stunning on a short straight strip overtaking a 40mph daudler. I have nealry 70K ZT V8 miles under my belt so was duly impressed, especially as some of the original write ups of the R75 V8 auto aand performance were lack lustre. I know I am a MGR fan for 40 years, but, hey its a fine car with classic Rover Vitesse refinement. The ride as anticpated was fabulous and so quietly refined compared to the ZT variant --- horses for courses eh?

My dilema is I was on my way to see a mongram ZT V8 which in my heart of hearts is the long overdue replacement for my original Typhoon ZT-T. Thats a superb car too. I have thought carefully about going for both to have and to hold 2 fine examples of the breeds...but Christmas is a coming as they say. If you really fancy a fine R75 V8 in a fab XPG colour with chrome trim...this is the car for you....and me....maybe! I know some of you think its overpriced..and stricly speaking it is. However, if you want one of these cars with low mileage.... dont be afraid...all the relevant paperwork is there too.

Cheers

[75SCO]

Sold for two in the hand. http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s588/schmoerholm/Sold.jpg?t=1355224685

[colintf]

well done :thumb

[tomcat22]

sold within the UK or to the continental part of europe?

[colintf]

South Africa I think, but I am sure the seller will be along soon to confirm / correct me :cool:

[75SCO]

"Soon" took me a few more days now, Colin, but yes, SA is correct. It is the buyer's intention to import the car to SA where his collection resides, but for now he will keep it at his premises in the UK.

[tomcat22]

SA? Wow! I guess he needs LHD headlights. As written on ebay I could help

[tonybubble]

SA? Wow! I guess he needs LHD headlights. As written on ebay I could help

Probably not as S.A. drives on the left! ;)