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kaiser
21-09-2012, 09:04 PM
My insulating cover around the gearbox, drips oil, and the gearbox is on the low side.

I cannot see where the oil comes from, it does not look like there is a leak from the bellhousing so maybe not the shaft seal.?

But to get the recommended oil, Mercon V, seems almost impossible. I have found a Caltex that says Dexron and Mercon compatible, but at astronomical cost.

Went to a local Ford Dealer. They said they drain all autoboxes and fill with William Pynns(?) which clearly states Dexron II.

So, what is one to do, and any fav. spot from where oil might go AWOL?

Herman
21-09-2012, 10:00 PM
Any of these should do http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-771-dexron-iii.aspx

kaiser
22-09-2012, 04:34 AM
Thanks for the answer. Mine is the Autobox, and the oil, MerconV, is not mentioned. If you use the vehicle locator on the site, it comes up with all the recommendations except for the auto box.
One of the oils include friction modifiers, the other not.

kaiser
22-09-2012, 04:48 AM
I think it is time that we have some expert tell us that what we put in does not have to be exactly what the factory requires. This is becoming ridiculous.

http://www.ihonlynorth.com/forums/oil-tech/2256-mercon-v-atf-vs-dexron-iii.html

I think he might have a point.

Herman
22-09-2012, 09:14 AM
If you look at the specs that is listed with the oils on the Opie site you'll find that most, if not all, list either Mercon or Dexron as comparable spec.

MerconV is not a brand but a spec. and most of the oils listed meet that spec.

kaiser
22-09-2012, 10:07 AM
Yes, I know it is a spec, like Dextron etc.
However, I have seen somewhere that the one oil is for brake bands and clutches, that require friction modifiers, and the other type is one for clutches and bands that does not require such. Which, as it stands, would make it impossible for the oils to be interchangeable.

I am getting to the viewpoint that all this is a sophisticated attempt to snare some money extra out of my pockets, and now I am determined to find out what is going on.

That Fords own branches here seem to disregards the requirement for Mercon oil in their own products, makes me wonder what is actually going on.

Herman
22-09-2012, 10:21 AM
It's not about the oil.................it's all about the money they can make :)

philby777
23-09-2012, 12:14 AM
Halfords get someone with a trade card http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_80 8973_langId_-1_categoryId_255219

Phil

colintf
23-09-2012, 12:24 AM
Halfords get someone with a trade card http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_80 8973_langId_-1_categoryId_255219

Phil

In South Africa ????? :cool:

Zt pony
23-09-2012, 11:53 AM
Kaiser..what the Fuchs are you on about !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Try Fuchs Lubricants South Africa..they really know their stuff/ and have a super range of Oils.
They list a WM PENN ATF ( which is the only reason I looked this up..as I have never heard of it ! )
Also. Castrol South Africa..list Mercon V etc !
Always better to contact the Lubricant manufacturers technical depts..direct..than ask commercial " Oil shops " ..who very often have have no technical credentials.
..and ..yes..I must be b bored this morning to discuss a bloke in S A 's G/B requirements !!!!!!!!!
Regards Harry

kaiser
23-09-2012, 05:04 PM
I haven't tried Fuchs, but I have indeed tried Castrol. I phoned their technical number on and a lady who clearly didn't have a clue managed to find a contact number for the local distributor in Olifantsfontein. I phoned them, and they had never heard about it, let alone ever sold it!. They came back and said that their local says person will give me a ring on Tuesday.
But, again, the most expensive brands say they are Mercon and Dexron III compatible, which sounds like mumbo jumbo to me.

kaiser
23-09-2012, 05:12 PM
http://www.wynnsusa.com/pdf/12711_SynMultiATFSpecs.pdf

It seems Dexron and Mercon is one and the same. It is the last time I am going to try and get a specific number, grade, shade colour etc. From now on a known name, and unless there is a warning NOT to, I will.

Herman
23-09-2012, 05:36 PM
As I said before it's just a spec, whether they call it Mercon (Ford) or Dexron (GM) they all cover the same.

If the oil maunfacturer, who makes oil to the required spec (for either Ford of GM), says they similar it's good enough for me

Zt pony
23-09-2012, 07:59 PM
Kaiser...one more to conseider..ROYAL PURPLE !You can get karter Performance. Johannesburg..NOT ..cheap, but very highly respected amongst HP Muscle Car circles . Wish I had had it in mine ..G/B and Diff/ Axle ..hwen I had mine done. Many of the USA Mustang boy's..rave about it. Also..Monkfish.. Vauxhall/ Holden Specialists UK ..use Royal Purple exclusively !! Regards to Castrol Tech Dep... they are a joke in UK too !! All call centres! They sacked most of the Tech guys " proper " awhile ago ! But..the PRODUCT itself is 1st Class . Or..see if the Fuching Fuchs guys can help ! That's brilliant lube too !! Harry.
I haven't tried Fuchs, but I have indeed tried Castrol. I phoned their technical number on and a lady who clearly didn't have a clue managed to find a contact number for the local distributor in Olifantsfontein. I phoned them, and they had never heard about it, let alone ever sold it!. They came back and said that their local says person will give me a ring on Tuesday.
But, again, the most expensive brands say they are Mercon and Dexron III compatible, which sounds like mumbo jumbo to me.

kaiser
23-09-2012, 08:05 PM
Thanks Harry and VMax.
I shall give them a ring come Tuesday, tomorrow being local "braai" day!
(heritage day)